Let's redefine "damage taxes"

[FireMage]

By FireMage's royal decree Machinist and Summoner must needs be deleted posthaste.

Such hyperbole. Do find where I've posted anything akin to that. Go on, fetch

The difference between having a dance partner or not having one on my samurai is literally night and day....MCH doesn't bring that to the table. And for the record, neither dnc or brd are even remotely difficult to play. I'd put them in the same difficulty range as MCH, so again, basing damage on "difficulty" is beyond stupid. You don't make a pure dps job do less damage than the support jobs because of "difficulty." MCH gets excluded from PF's significantly as it is. Your idea would outright make them banned from any group because there would be zero reason to ever allow them in any group when you could bring a dnc or brd who not only do more dps but also bring raid utility.

Seriously, do you even play this game? I think I take back what I've said before about you. You're not misinformed, you actually are just a troll. There is no way you actually believe the crap you're spouting out.

You're saying the sky would be falling when it wouldn't be. The damage potential falloff from best to worst DPS would be ~5% and only ~1% from BRD/DNC to MCH with proper balance. Every non melee would see buffs with proper balance. You accuse me of trolling, yet you're the one strawmanning and putting words in my mouth. Also you wish to cast doubt on whether I play the game, yet your listed character has no fflogs and barely any mounts or minions. Methinks you doth project too much

[Ransu]

Such hyperbole. Do find where I've posted anything akin to that. Go on, fetch



You're saying the sky would be falling when it wouldn't be. The damage potential falloff from best to worst DPS would be ~5% and only ~1% from BRD/DNC to MCH with proper balance. Every non melee would see buffs with proper balance. You accuse me of trolling, yet you're the one strawmanning and putting words in my mouth. Also you wish to cast doubt on whether I play the game, yet your listed character has no fflogs and barely any mounts or minions. Methinks you doth project too much

I'm stating human nature, especially when it comes to gamers who always gravitate to the stronger options. MCH doing 1% less damage than the support jobs that bring raid buffs will 100% lead to MCH being blacklisted. There would be no logical reason to have a MCH in a party when the dnc and brd would not only do more damage, but give raid buffs. We've literally seen this in the past where in ARR MNK was basically told to go fly a kite as every party did double bard and a drg for the brd buffs and for the piercing debuff with drg and the flex was pretty much always blm.