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    Elizasylen's Avatar
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    Senba Torii
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 100
    The way ya'll be talking reminds me of low wage workers trying to argue how your job is harder and deserve more pay than the next person when everybody is all being underpaid.
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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    Great let's nerf RDM then. It's braindead easy to play. Then we can rebuff it, once SE makes it require a brain. That's your so called logic and facts for you. Nothing is difficult. Your precious job is not even remotely hard to play. No job except BLM is.
    I love how you're ignoring what I've said prior. Also again, RDM is harder then each phys ranged and SMN. Maybe you need to go read through my posts and see that I've stated that proper balance would buff practically every non melee. But hey, ignoring facts is usually required to troll to the degree you're shooting for
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    Zira Zira
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    Jenova
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    I love how you're ignoring what I've said prior. Also again, RDM is harder then each phys ranged and SMN. Maybe you need to go read through my posts and see that I've stated that proper balance would buff practically every non melee. But hey, ignoring facts is usually required to troll to the degree you're shooting for
    nah it's easier, lower casts per minute than SMN even, wow
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    Zanelle Solainteau
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    I love how you're ignoring what I've said prior. Also again, RDM is harder then each phys ranged and SMN. Maybe you need to go read through my posts and see that I've stated that proper balance would buff practically every non melee. But hey, ignoring facts is usually required to troll to the degree you're shooting for
    It's really not though. My personal experience says RDM is quite easy. MCH timing is a bit more difficult but still easy. RDM was never hard at any point. So we are going to need to lower the DPS of everyone job except BLM to line up more with how easy everything is, since according to you that is what matters. Also according to you, every job being able to compete for spots and complete content doesn't matter. That is a weird take, since that is something SE actually prides itself on.
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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    nah it's easier, lower casts per minute than SMN even, wow
    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    You clearly aren't aware of things like Closed Position changes. Also having to react to RNG. APM doesn't mean much when it's inflated
    You really should read before posting

    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    It's really not though. My personal experience says RDM is quite easy. MCH timing is a bit more difficult but still easy. RDM was never hard at any point. So we are going to need to lower the DPS of everyone job except BLM to line up more with how easy everything is, since according to you that is what matters. Also according to you, every job being able to compete for spots and complete content doesn't matter. That is a weird take, since that is something SE actually prides itself on.
    Your personal experience is a non factor to what is. Also way to strawman and lie about what I've stated in the past. You really need to go back and read through the topic instead of bad faith arguing because you think I'm saying that MCH should be nerfed, when I've stated no such thing
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Your personal experience is a non factor to what is.
    You should take your own advice and stop trying to argue that one class is more complex than another
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    Saber Maxwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    You should take your own advice and stop trying to argue that one class is more complex than another
    Really it'd be to everyone's benefit to stop this ridiculous argument with him. I'm tired of hearing how x job is braindead, y job is braindead, your job is braindead, and my job is braindead. It's all a bit tiring, especially when people hop on board not even doing content where ANY job requires even a modicum of thought.
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    I either buy my own sandwich or I end up with pork-nostrils.

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    Zanelle Solainteau
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Your personal experience is a non factor to what is. Also way to strawman and lie about what I've stated in the past. You really need to go back and read through the topic instead of bad faith arguing because you think I'm saying that MCH should be nerfed, when I've stated no such thing
    Yes, it is. Just as much as your experience. RDM is very easy. BLM being the hardest is not a personal experience thing. It's what I gathered around the FFXIV water cooler so to speak. The most difficult part about BLM is setting up the rotation through each instance's mechanics. Other than that, this is a pretty easy game in terms of using skills. Now some fights themselves will obviously be harder and that affects the whole party, even outside rotations.
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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Gilgamesh
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    Yeah the casuals should definitely not be speaking
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    Mithron Scarlet
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Yeah the casuals should definitely not be speaking
    Isn't that why you've been called out for not clearing all Ultimates on multiple jobs on release? I agree, you should not be speaking.
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