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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    I think looking at both HOC and BW side by side shows BW is actually pretty similar in mitigation.

    HOC = 15% + 15%
    BW = 10% + 10% and a shield for around 7-10% of your HP
    Both work out pretty strong, considering that the shield also has your mit stacked with it BW's actual mitigation is fairly decent despite what people have been saying, this shows they're actually not far off from each other on single target ignoring healing

    This ontop of having the stronger healing effect (ignoring how flash is a outright better bw for a friend), I would consider BW The best personal even in single target, TBN also is the best depending on the situation as it's hard to compare TBN to other tanks personals.
    To be fair though, you have to factor in Gunbreaker will always have Brutal Shell going. Bloodwhetting's shield essentially makes that a wash, albeit with less mitigation upfront. Likewise, while BW has a better healing effect, you take more damage upfront due to the 10% difference.

    Overall, the two are reasonably close to one another though I'd give Corundum the very slight edge myself. Regardless, the bigger take away here is people need to stop overrating Bloodwhetting as this incredibly broken ability. In dungeons, it's absolutely ridiculous. In raids, it's simply on par with the others or slightly behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Overall, the two are reasonably close to one another though I'd give Corundum the very slight edge myself. Regardless, the bigger take away here is people need to stop overrating Bloodwhetting as this incredibly broken ability. In dungeons, it's absolutely ridiculous. In raids, it's simply on par with the others or slightly behind.
    You found the reason why it's considered as such. Again, Criterion will determine whether it's still OP or not. If so...expect the healing on BW to be dropped to per use instead of per hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    To be fair though, you have to factor in Gunbreaker will always have Brutal Shell going. Bloodwhetting's shield essentially makes that a wash, albeit with less mitigation upfront. Likewise, while BW has a better healing effect, you take more damage upfront due to the 10% difference.

    Overall, the two are reasonably close to one another though I'd give Corundum the very slight edge myself. Regardless, the bigger take away here is people need to stop overrating Bloodwhetting as this incredibly broken ability. In dungeons, it's absolutely ridiculous. In raids, it's simply on par with the others or slightly behind.
    To be fair warrior is a bit overrated. it's pretty balanced well balanced defensively In my opinion, but also pretty strong depending on the fight, the main issue is more or less PLD, I hope the "rework" or adjustments also actually adress to blocking issues (and hopefully more defensively but I doubt it).

    I don't know if warrior should be above the GNB/Drk (I'll add that yes it should be buffed as all tanks should be at least 1% in each other), again I think generally warrior and drk are very fight dependent as they have more of a niche depending on the fight and Gunbreaker is likely the best all rounder, general strong mitigations and good sustain.
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    Last edited by Rithy255; 10-01-2022 at 01:20 AM.

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