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    Player
    Martynek's Avatar
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    Martyn Dracht
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    Lich
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    Paladin Lv 90

    Don't change Paladin.

    It's the only job left in the game (other than Black Mage, although that particular developer pet goes without saying) that has genuine thought and care put into its design.

    Reworking it would be a clear and unambiguous sign to the players of every non-BLM job that they aren't allowed to be different or have fun.
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    Curisu's Avatar
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    Chryden Speakel
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Agree, PLD is fine as it it.
    I don't want another "press this oGCD button every 120sec to do your most DMG" class.
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    Artaius Windcrest
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    They're gonna do you dirty like they did to DRK in ShB and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
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    Ryla Bee
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    Omega
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I agree with not changing how PLD works.

    But your blanket statement about all other jobs sans BLM being thoughtless is at best ignorant, at worst offensive.
    There are number of problems, but also not small amount of jobs that work perfectly fine and are fun to play.

    Please stop with this hysteric generalization.
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I don't play PLD, I'm not interested in its rotation.
    I would be interested if there was changes in the physical phase.

    But I know many players enjoy PLD the way it is now.
    And I agree, we don't need anymore 60s/120s job, we need less.

    Keep the PLD DPS rotation the way it is, but please update Cover.
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    Reiko Saki
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    Exodus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I don't play PLD, I'm not interested in its rotation.
    I would be interested if there was changes in the physical phase.

    But I know many players enjoy PLD the way it is now.
    And I agree, we don't need anymore 60s/120s job, we need less.

    Keep the PLD DPS rotation the way it is, but please update Cover.
    I mean what's wrong having a 1 min burst rotation? I rather more jobs have a 1 minute burst window then that gives a since identity and make them stand out then then have it be the same like everyone else.
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Escence View Post
    I mean what's wrong having a 1 min burst rotation? I rather more jobs have a 1 minute burst window then that gives a since identity and make them stand out then then have it be the same like everyone else.
    I don't mind if PLD's adjusted (not reworked) to fit one minutes better, generally aslong as the job feels the same I'd be happy. I love how PLD plays generally even if it's a bit static I just don't find it dull.

    I think the main issue is they're likely going to remove major parts about Paladin without really thinking about why people enjoy the job in first place.
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Escence View Post
    I mean what's wrong having a 1 min burst rotation? I rather more jobs have a 1 minute burst window then that gives a since identity and make them stand out then then have it be the same like everyone else.
    One minute of 1 2 3 is not fun.
    It's great to have little things to think about and it's not much.

    PLD was very fun to learn, it's a 60s job but with an interesting filler rotation.
    Yes it can have a high skill ceiling due to FoF windows but is it bad to have a high skill ceiling?

    We don't have to play a job perfectly, just need to be good enough at it.
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    While It's fine to be worried, acting like any change to Paladin will be bad and completely ruin the job just makes no sense.
    I'd argue PLD Should have some changes, stuff like Holy Shelltron not working properly Intervention being a worse Holy shelltron while other tank cds are the same if not better when used on someone else, DV, Cover, Passage The list goes on mainly it's utility/defensives should be generally buffed if people still want to call it the "utility tank".

    Rotation wise I don't know? The core rotation of having dot upkeep with your high phys damage phase and magic window having two bursts then a small part of your rotation being your non burst is fine, I really hope they don't remove that aspect or any rotational abilities.

    At this point I'll wait and see if the changes are good or not, if they're bad then I'll complain, the notion that any change is a bad change just makes no sense to me.
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    Anienai Talenca
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Martynek View Post
    It's the only job left in the game (other than Black Mage, although that particular developer pet goes without saying) that has genuine thought and care put into its design.

    Reworking it would be a clear and unambiguous sign to the players of every non-BLM job that they aren't allowed to be different or have fun.
    So you are asking for a massive rework of the PLD class?
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