Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
Obviously not?
HNMs.. no HNMs... at this point I don't even care....
I just want to know how professional athletes are OBVIOUSLY not jerks and assholes...
really?
I actually have a few friends in the NFL... and I'll be honest with you... their douchebags....
And you know what? the more competitive they are... the bigger douches they are....
Michael Jordan is maybe the worlds biggest douche... Im not even kidding...
Lebron James? Michael Vick?
really though?
Athlete =/= douche?

Edit: I'm going to give you a moment to retract that statement... Im barely even following this thread and I don't really know what your position is on this... but that has to hurt your argument... I can't even believe someone said that... I'm calling my buddy Bernard Pollard (Ravens DB) right now... I'm dead serious.... I'm calling him to tell him you said that
You could also calculate the following: we have more exposure to those named athletes due to a heightened media. Also factor in that nobody covers the hundreds of hours of community service Drew Brees did for New Orleans. Thus, people prefer to watch athletes (or anyone famous) at their worst behavior because it brings them down to what we perceive to be a lower level than ourselves. This is why reality television is so big.

Also, remember that anyone can look like a jerk if portrayed in short snippets of only their worst moments. I could put together a media montage that makes Ghandi look like a total dick and one that does vice-versa.

You have friends in the NFL who are jerks. I have friends in mainstream MMA that I train with ("train" is a loose term meaning "I get beat up by") who are completely normal people who just so happen to possess extreme conviction and natural ability/physical parameters. I also know a couple who are jerks.

The point is that no one single group in society is solely one way. At the end of the day we are all humans (in good and bad moments) - we all possess the ability to be jerks in some instances and the complete opposite in others.