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    It would effect players with less time in the sense that they would not be able to participate in it nor get anything from it. Whether the monster spawns once every 2 seconds or once every 2 days doesn't matter if they both take the same effort to kill. You're just limiting the amount of people who could participate. You can scream that it takes more skill till your face turns blue but the skill is in actually... you know? fighting the monster. It takes no skill to claim something.

    /ma "Stun" <stnpc> >.> my god that was always so hard to do in xi. Took mad skills to run around tabbing for monsters while not being able to leave my computer for an hour + waiting for a pop window. :3 Skilllzzzzz
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    Most players who don't have the time can have more content to look forward to. Such as " Today I'm gonna play and try to kill <some name of a nm/hnm>.", or maybe the LS the the casual game is in can get a scheduled date to have the LS help him for a hour or so. Generally LS members are helpful, no matter the cost, and if you don't get to kill the NM or you do kill the NM but the item doesn't drop, so what. I can be a casual gamer at times due to IRL shenanigans and I would just try again. There will be so much content out there that it wouldn't matter if you had the time to kill a HNM that didn't re-spawn every hour at ToD. All I am trying to get across is, it's not excluding.. just more than likely giving you something to look forward to.
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    Sri Ahbayaa
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    If you only make content for people who have very little time to play, you're going to get... very little content.
    Make a lot of content and let people choose what they want to do with their time.

    As for claim wars dividing the player base and creating general nastiness...
    You guys seem to have that covered on the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abhayaa View Post
    If you only make content for people who have very little time to play, you're going to get... very little content.
    Make a lot of content and let people choose what they want to do with their time.

    As for claim wars dividing the player base and creating general nastiness...
    You guys seem to have that covered on the forums.
    Just because access time to an event or mob is short doesn't mean that the mob itself wouldn't take a massive collaborated effort to kill. Time spent waiting =/= ease of beating what you were waiting for. Completely unrelated things.

    All the obsurd timmers do is create a lack of access to said content to a sizeable portion of the playerbase so that a few people can get their thrills.
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    So you'd be picking the best of the worst games fusional? I vote find one you enjoy instead. Or enjoy this, keep being patient even though we all know its been a long time, and see what the future holds here.... you know what the future holds in other games already. Lottery vs. guaranteed crap.... I'll keep playin the lottery!
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    I still vote for trophy drops only. Those who want to camp can camp. Thrill of competition.... people don't want that. They want something to make them feel superior... I vote yes to camping, no to amazing items.

    "People will only camp if there are good rewards to motivate them" So that boils down to, "people want better items than others have to feel superior"?.... gogo trophy drops. Trophies are almost by definition given as rewards to a select few, how is this a bad idea!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
    I still vote for trophy drops only. Those who want to camp can camp. Thrill of competition.... people don't want that. They want something to make them feel superior... I vote yes to camping, no to amazing items.

    "People will only camp if there are good rewards to motivate them" So that boils down to, "people want better items than others have to feel superior"?.... gogo trophy drops. Trophies are almost by definition given as rewards to a select few, how is this a bad idea!?
    If it would be a trophy drop maybe a materia meld option?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
    I still vote for trophy drops only. Those who want to camp can camp. Thrill of competition.... people don't want that. They want something to make them feel superior... I vote yes to camping, no to amazing items.

    "People will only camp if there are good rewards to motivate them" So that boils down to, "people want better items than others have to feel superior"?.... gogo trophy drops. Trophies are almost by definition given as rewards to a select few, how is this a bad idea!?
    Completely agree with this post. I do not mind spending long periods of time to acquire a certain quality of gear but the idea of being forced to stand around board camping for it or even interrupting what I am doing in-game to go camp a HNM in order to keep up is unappealing without a suitable alternative option as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubberrucky View Post
    Completely agree with this post. I do not mind spending long periods of time to acquire a certain quality of gear but the idea of being forced to stand around board camping for it or even interrupting what I am doing in-game to go camp a HNM in order to keep up is unappealing without a suitable alternative option as well.
    I think HNM's should drop upper echelon gear. Maybe not the most "Elite" of pieces, but stuff that would desirably sought after. Great gear, I guess.

    But you are right, I don't want to "camp". I would like spawn timers to be around 6 hours, but with 1 (one) 15 minute window? Maybe less. So no more 7 windows, just 1 shot to pop. This way people don't waste time.

    X-HNM is due to pop in 30 mins. People gather, windows comes.. LS claims. That's that. Back to whatever you were doing.
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    Bring Quality Notorious Monsters to FFXIV!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePatriarch View Post
    I think HNM's should drop upper echelon gear. Maybe not the most "Elite" of pieces, but stuff that would desirably sought after. Great gear, I guess.

    But you are right, I don't want to "camp". I would like spawn timers to be around 6 hours, but with 1 (one) 15 minute window? Maybe less. So no more 7 windows, just 1 shot to pop. This way people don't waste time.

    X-HNM is due to pop in 30 mins. People gather, windows comes.. LS claims. That's that. Back to whatever you were doing.
    Im not saying they shouldn't drop great gear. If you are willing to take the headache of going after them more power to you and the LS that wants to do so. What I am saying is do not make it the end all be all gear because there are those of us who are willing to put in just as much if not more work to attain the same level of desirable gear without that particular headache give us an alternative headache to choose between simultaneously.
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