The Devs need a much needed thanks!

[Atelier-Bagur]

So excuse me, instead of admitting you've read none of what other people wrote before coming over and insulting the thread, you accuse me of being passive aggressive? Sure jan.

At least admit your fault? Yeah, I'm passive aggressive, because I'm so tired of people not even reading what others posted and giving it a rest. Because here's the thing Atelier... YES there ARE people saying SE is never at fault. That's the point of this whole thread! And when we justify it as "We know they've done good things, but that doesn't excuse bad things", people go absolutely ballistic!

Trying to argue one extreme with another extreme isnt also helping quell the situation either. Its honestly tiring seeing this community be so jaded with one another and the developers.

[Midareyukki]

Trying to argue one extreme with another extreme isnt also helping quell the situation either. Its honestly tiring seeing this community be so jaded with one another and the developers.

And yet the answer people want IS an extreme, how about that. "Ignore the devs doing crap and focus on the good things".

Like, I agree, it's a terrible thing to only focus on extremes. I DON'T want to only call them out on their issues. But as I said before, I can't call them on issues and force out a good thing to counter-balance that, it will sound so fake.

You're still calling yourself an adult while insulting people, though. If I'm passive aggressive for calling you out on it, then I'm sorry but you're just as jaded as everyone else. If you understand your own exasperation towards us, then you can understand ours toward people who don't put two and two together.

[Atelier-Bagur]

And yet the answer people want IS an extreme, how about that. "Ignore the devs doing crap and focus on the good things".

Like, I agree, it's a terrible thing to only focus on extremes. I DON'T want to only call them out on their issues. But as I said before, I can't call them on issues and force out a good thing to counter-balance that, it will sound so fake.

You're still calling yourself an adult while insulting people, though. If I'm passive aggressive for calling you out on it, then I'm sorry but you're just as jaded as everyone else. If you understand your own exasperation towards us, then you can understand ours toward people who don't put two and two together.

Nobody is even trying to say "ignore the bad or the devs mistakes". OP isnt saying that the devs are perfect and cant do no wrong, how about you stop pretending that there's this magical loud majority of people who abhor any kind of criticism towards the dev team when if you take the time to actually read what people are saying is to be respectful with the criticism? Again you being very defensive kinda paints the picture over some of that toxic extreme behavior.