The Devs need a much needed thanks!

[Kes13a]

common courtesy is obviously lost on most.

Thanks SE and the devs for bringing me a game I enjoy playing and enjoy enough to keep subscribing to.

by the way, before you all start getting insulting, saying thanks isnt praise. I appreciate the game and the work that goes into it, thats not being a shill, its knowing for a fact its not something I could do, or would do. its not perfect, its not horrible as some like to make it out to be. but if its that bad.. why are you still paying them money? well, your dime, do with it what you will I suppose...

[Midareyukki]

common courtesy is obviously lost on most.

Thanks SE and the devs for bringing me a game I enjoy playing and enjoy enough to keep subscribing to.

by the way, before you all start getting insulting, saying thanks isnt praise. I appreciate the game and the work that goes into it, thats not being a shill, its knowing for a fact its not something I could do, or would do. its not perfect, its not horrible as some like to make it out to be. but if its that bad.. why are you still paying them money? well, your dime, do with it what you will I suppose...

I mean, you're the one whose post immediately starts with a snide criticism.

If anything, you utterly failed to read what has already been said. "saying thanks isn't praise", yes, we know. Just look up.
"why are you still paying them money?" need I direct you over to this?
Stuff like that isn't that clear-cut either, high horse down please.

I swear, you skip over an entire thread and then you breed negativity with amazing quips as "common courtesy is obviously lost on most", and then people who complain over things are called out on being negative? You're no better!

No, you're not being a shill. You're being something else entirely. People can still appreciate the game while pointing their flaws, yes? What else do you expect them to do, turn a blind eye? Because that won't happen every darn time, and you best get used to it.

Tell me.

Tell me to my face to turn a blind eye to the way they treated my race and the people who enjoy it and showed support for their own work by playing it.

I dare you.

Its pointless to tell children how good they got it compared to other MMO or game devs that honestly dont care much to communicate to their own playerbase or almost all feedback falls on deaf ears.

In today's current modern gaming age, it really is a godsend to have developers actually put in the effort that the FFXIV team does. If people want to continue to have this unhealthy unwarranted customer self-entitlement then they can go on and continue to be bitter rather than getting differing perspectives.

No I'm not saying this because I'm a shill or a simp for SE, I'm just being an adult about not getting overly upset and or getting caught with the online drama llama whenever things dont go exactly as planned.

Oh look, another one.

I'm sorry, who's being immature? The guys telling you that SE has flaws and that being told about them isn't negativity, or the ones coming over and insulting people?

Amazing job at being an adult, 10/10.

Also, it's so obvious neither of you read this thread, because the point of other games having better or worse and how they should factor in has already been addressed in another post, quoting Square Enix's thoughts on it directly.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I mean, you're the one whose post immediately starts with a snide criticism.

If anything, you utterly failed to read what has already been said. "saying thanks isn't praise", yes, we know. Just look up.
"why are you still paying them money?" need I direct you over to this?
Stuff like that isn't that clear-cut either, high horse down please.

I swear, you skip over an entire thread and then you breed negativity with amazing quips as "common courtesy is obviously lost on most", and then people who complain over things are called out on being negative? You're no better!

No, you're not being a shill. You're being something else entirely. People can still appreciate the game while pointing their flaws, yes? What else do you expect them to do, turn a blind eye? Because that won't happen every darn time, and you best get used to it.

Tell me.

Tell me to my face to turn a blind eye to the way they treated my race and the people who enjoy it and showed support for their own work by playing it.

I dare you.



Oh look, another one.

I'm sorry, who's being immature? The guys telling you that SE has flaws and that being told about them isn't negativity, or the ones coming over and insulting people?

Amazing job at being an adult, 10/10.

Buddy the fact that you're responding so clearly defensive tells that you're being butthurt over people wanting for others to chill. Thats basic child behavior there. Nobody is saying that SE are never at fault for their own mistakes.

[Midareyukki]

Buddy the fact that you're responding so much with such passive aggressiveness clearly tells that you're being butthurt over people wanting for others to chill. Thats basic child behavior there. Nobody is saying that SE are never at fault for their own mistakes.

So excuse me, instead of admitting you've read none of what other people wrote before coming over and insulting the thread, you accuse me of being passive aggressive? Sure jan.

At least admit your fault? Yeah, I'm passive aggressive, because I'm so tired of people not even reading what others posted and giving it a rest. Because here's the thing Atelier... YES there ARE people saying SE is never at fault. That's the point of this whole thread! And when we justify it as "We know they've done good things, but that doesn't excuse bad things", people go absolutely ballistic!

[Atelier-Bagur]

So excuse me, instead of admitting you've read none of what other people wrote before coming over and insulting the thread, you accuse me of being passive aggressive? Sure jan.

At least admit your fault? Yeah, I'm passive aggressive, because I'm so tired of people not even reading what others posted and giving it a rest. Because here's the thing Atelier... YES there ARE people saying SE is never at fault. That's the point of this whole thread! And when we justify it as "We know they've done good things, but that doesn't excuse bad things", people go absolutely ballistic!

Trying to argue one extreme with another extreme isnt also helping quell the situation either. Its honestly tiring seeing this community be so jaded with one another and the developers.

[Midareyukki]

Trying to argue one extreme with another extreme isnt also helping quell the situation either. Its honestly tiring seeing this community be so jaded with one another and the developers.

And yet the answer people want IS an extreme, how about that. "Ignore the devs doing crap and focus on the good things".

Like, I agree, it's a terrible thing to only focus on extremes. I DON'T want to only call them out on their issues. But as I said before, I can't call them on issues and force out a good thing to counter-balance that, it will sound so fake.

You're still calling yourself an adult while insulting people, though. If I'm passive aggressive for calling you out on it, then I'm sorry but you're just as jaded as everyone else. If you understand your own exasperation towards us, then you can understand ours toward people who don't put two and two together.

[Atelier-Bagur]

And yet the answer people want IS an extreme, how about that. "Ignore the devs doing crap and focus on the good things".

Like, I agree, it's a terrible thing to only focus on extremes. I DON'T want to only call them out on their issues. But as I said before, I can't call them on issues and force out a good thing to counter-balance that, it will sound so fake.

You're still calling yourself an adult while insulting people, though. If I'm passive aggressive for calling you out on it, then I'm sorry but you're just as jaded as everyone else. If you understand your own exasperation towards us, then you can understand ours toward people who don't put two and two together.

Nobody is even trying to say "ignore the bad or the devs mistakes". OP isnt saying that the devs are perfect and cant do no wrong, how about you stop pretending that there's this magical loud majority of people who abhor any kind of criticism towards the dev team when if you take the time to actually read what people are saying is to be respectful with the criticism? Again you being very defensive kinda paints the picture over some of that toxic extreme behavior.

[Silverbane]

Buddy the fact that you're responding so clearly defensive tells that you're being butthurt over people wanting for others to chill. Thats basic child behavior there.

Personally, I find their statement "Tell me to my face to turn a blind eye to the way they treated my race ..." (emphasis added) more troubling than mere childish behavior. That level of projecting oneself into a video game character ... what should one make of it?

I am not my characters. The lack of sufficient appropriate footwear and headgear options for my Viera fem characters is not SE treating me badly. It is just what it is, and if it ruined my experience playing my Viera characters, I've still got the free Fantasia they each got for completing ARR to change them to another race.