The Devs need a much needed thanks!

[AwesomeJr44]

I appreciate your courage, AlaineIV. You knew this forum was full of haters, that the haters hate anyone who dares to not hate what they hate, and would therefor direct their hate at you.

It doesn't take courage to post on an online forum. If you think it does, you're a coward. And I say this as someone with a lot of opinions that aren't 'mainstream'. Also, labeling anyone and everyone as a 'hater' if they don't shower Yoshi and his team of devs with constant praise is just trying to invalidate the people who don't think that praise should be a participation trophy. Although if we want to be fair, you're a pretty hateful person yourself Silverbane. Are you sure that you aren't a 'hater'?

My spouse plays FFXIV but doesn't read the forums, except for things like Camie Tsukino's posts that I send her links to. At dinner out tonight, we were discussing glamours, and I mentioned a cash shop item.
My spouse, out of nowhere, said "I should really take a look through Mog Station. I'd like to buy something from it to thank the developers."

And you are free to do this if you wish to. We all do this in the form of our sub. (literally as you need a sub to be on the forums) I know you love going into threads to boast about yourself or your spouse, but this isn't something special to treat as a win over the 'haters'.

Then we tipped the waitress $10 in cash on a $45 total bill, because she'd been very pleasant and professional and we'd enjoyed our dinner. I doubt many of the haters here would have done that. The haters would maybe have thought there was too much ice in the drinks, or that the meal couldn't possibly have cost $45 to make, and used that as an excuse to not tip at all.

Cool. Lots of people tip the waiter even if the food was subpar, primarily because the waiter is typically not the cook. For me to not tip a waiter, they have to actively be rude to me. And I don't say that as if I'm a special case, that's just how it works.

That's their way.

And your way is going into threads about how hard it is to get a house and bragging that you have multiple. Or actually, is your way going into threads where people are asking for more content to fill the content lull between patches, and then deciding to play internet psychologist, make wild guesses at their personal mental health, and diagnose them with an addiction?

Like my spouse, and unlike most forum posters, the devs have brought a lot of fun into my life.
So like my spouse, I cut the devs some slack.

I used to as well, but they've burnt through the goodwill they've built up with me throughout the years. SE is not my friend. They're not my spouse. They're a business, and if they don't treat me, as one of their customers, correctly I will criticize them.

[Supersnow845]

I appreciate your courage, AlaineIV. You knew this forum was full of haters, that the haters hate anyone who dares to not hate what they hate, and would therefor direct their hate at you. But you posted anyway, so for you, kudos and a true story:

My spouse plays FFXIV but doesn't read the forums, except for things like Camie Tsukino's posts that I send her links to. At dinner out tonight, we were discussing glamours, and I mentioned a cash shop item.
My spouse, out of nowhere, said "I should really take a look through Mog Station. I'd like to buy something from it to thank the developers."
I just smiled.

Then we tipped the waitress $10 in cash on a $45 total bill, because she'd been very pleasant and professional and we'd enjoyed our dinner.

I doubt many of the haters here would have done that. The haters would maybe have thought there was too much ice in the drinks, or that the meal couldn't possibly have cost $45 to make, and used that as an excuse to not tip at all. That's their way.

You should be happy that you aren't like the haters, AlaineIV.
I think you understand that:

I’m sorry but saying people who have valid criticisms against a game are people who wouldn’t tip is both a straw man and just immature

We aren’t haters we just have standards

[Kazhar]

Like my spouse, and unlike most forum posters, the devs have brought a lot of fun into my life.
So like my spouse, I cut the devs some slack.

If I was a Square Enix dev and I was reading this I would be seriously creeped out.

[Restonance]

I'm getting a massive sense of deja vu here. I feel like I've seen this thread worded slightly differently every time there's a controversy

[AwesomeJr44]

I'm getting a massive sense of deja vu here. I feel like I've seen this thread worded slightly differently every time there's a controversy

Because there's a group of people who see threads rightfully talking about how SE screwed up something, and they feel the need to make a 'counter thread'.

If I was a Square Enix dev and I was reading this I would be seriously creeped out.

If I was a SE dev and I paid attention to the forums, I'd have gotten a divorce years ago.

[Supersnow845]

Because there's a group of people who see threads rightfully talking about how SE screwed up something, and they feel the need to make a 'counter thread'.



If I was a SE dev and I paid attention to the forums, I'd have gotten a divorce years ago.

It’s 100% the best example of GCBTW, pretending everyone is happy go lucky and the game is perfect is more important than actually fixing the game

[Lunalepsy]

Despite this last week and the amount of flak that they received, they work extremely hard to bring us a game that is much loved and enjoyed. The amount of hate I have seen this past week because a class can't do 1% more damage is absurd in the slightest, but then again that is only less than 2% of the community most likely complaining. Those that are complaining are the ones that have zero ideal what they are talking about and are only outcrying what their favorite streamer is telling them to outcry.

Again: Thank you Devs for bringing us an amazing game. I know mistakes are made, we are all human and you all do your best to fix it. I look forward to seeing what you bring in 6.25 and 6.3.

No, they don't.

[Silverbane]

See what I mean, AlaineIV?

Dare to not hate what the haters hate, and you'll accumulate a collection of haters who follow you from thread to thread, making personal attacks on you in an attempt to silence your simple message that you appreciate what the devs have provided you. They quickly saturate the thread, turning it into an OT shitpile that no dev team member is going to want to pick through.

I've been on UUNET/ArpaNet/Internet forums for over 40 years,
and this is one aspect of them that has not changed.

Who knows, maybe turning (or keeping) the EN forums a shitpile is the haters goal?
Make it so that it's useless, so they'll always have an excuse to hate the devs for not listening to them. That kind of self-reinforcing death spiral is unfortunately not rare, possibly because some people can only feel good about themselves by belittling others.
Not that they'd ever admit that, even to themselves.

[AwesomeJr44]

See what I mean, AlaineIV?

Dare to not hate what the haters hate, and you'll accumulate a collection of haters who follow you from thread to thread, making personal attacks on you in an attempt to silence your simple message that you appreciate what the devs have provided you. They quickly saturate the thread, turning it into an OT shitpile that no dev team member is going to want to pick through.

I've been on UUNET/ArpaNet/Internet forums for over 40 years,
and this is one aspect of them that has not changed.

Who knows, maybe turning (or keeping) the EN forums a shitpile is the haters goal?
Make it so that it's useless, so they'll always have an excuse to hate the devs for not listening to them. That kind of self-reinforcing death spiral is unfortunately not rare, possibly because some people can only feel good about themselves by belittling others.
Not that they'd ever admit that, even to themselves.

Silverbane don't act like a victim. You have a reputation for being unhinged because you are unhinged.

[SentioftheHoukai]

Silverbane don't act like a victim. You have a reputation for being unhinged because you are unhinged.

Silver and Vel both are just so odd, to me. They both claim membership in the more geriatric side of the age divide, what with their "back in my day" and "I've been on internet forums for over 40 years" quotes. Why then, are they so hostile and hateful? Most people of a more advanced age I have the pleasure of being acquainted with are kind, wise and respectful. Whence then, did Silver and Vel seem to fail to heed this moral?

Edit: Shite, what the krill?! Do you just make five second memes on the fly, Awesome?