Live Letter Thoughts

[aveyond-dreams]

If only that Zenos scene ended with either the injury of a scion or the removal of one from the plot, then perhaps the forge ahead message would've resonated more with people after seeing the mouthpieces of this message go through a more recent ordeal. In any case, if not the burger scene then we also know that Estinien putting his boot on the dormitory balcony was also rather costly. And yet, not a scene, not even a still, not even a drawing depicting the Sundering.

How can anyone justify this?

The eating burgers scene with the Scions has a close counterpoint in HW with the dinner scene with Aymeric, honestly. And Aymeric's fork and knife and the meal presented is not remotely medieval - or even 1600s Europe.

No, but it still was more fitting in the fantasy setting of Ishgard than eating hamburgers that came straight out of a McDonald's bag with the world on the brink of ending. The two scenes are not remotely similar in terms of how dissonant they were with the tone and setting their respective expansions were supposed to depict.

You're not going to convince me that having a fancy dinner in Aymeric's mansion where he treated the player with respect and not goofiness is in any way comparable to seeing G'raha Tia wipe the cheese falling off his burger or Alisae taking the pickles off of hers.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

If only that Zenos scene ended with either the injury of a scion or the removal of one from the plot, then perhaps the forge ahead message would've resonated more with people after seeing the mouthpieces of this message go through a more recent ordeal. In any case, if not the burger scene then we also know that Estinien putting his boot on the dormitory balcony was also rather costly. And yet, not a scene, not even a still, not even a drawing depicting the Sundering.

How can anyone justify this?



No, but it still was more fitting in the fantasy setting of Ishgard than eating hamburgers that came straight out of a McDonald's bag with the world on the brink of ending.

I guess people don't try to enjoy a good last meal before heading off to war ever.

You have such a one track mind lol

[aveyond-dreams]

I guess people don't try to enjoy a good last meal before heading off to war ever.

You have such a one track mind lol

And that meal didn't have to be McDonald's. When the setting and characters are cheapened or disrespected like this, expect to encounter voices who are against such things. No one is playing Final Fantasy games because they want to laugh at people eating hamburgers, they want to experience a Final Fantasy story that makes better use of their screentime.

[VelKallor]

And that meal didn't have to be McDonald's

You havent done the crafters quests in Sharlayan..have you?

[Raoabolic]

You havent done the crafters quests in Sharlayan..have you?

That doesn't help EW's argument, lol.

[VelKallor]

That doesn't help EW's argument, lol.

It does when you remember where that burger came from.

*sigh*

[Alleo]

I guess people don't try to enjoy a good last meal before heading off to war ever.

You have such a one track mind lol

There is even a history record (and movies about it) that in World War I the three armies in the thrench stopped their fighting on christmas, made a truce and bascially celebrated christmas together. Exchanging food, singing together, playing soccer and so on. Afterwards these soldiers had to be changed out because they did not want to fight the other sides anymore.

And recently with the Ukraine you have countless of videos of soldiers and the common people that are having fun while the war is going on. A young person playing the piano while the warning bells go off. Soldiers playing music to other people. Even a soldier doing a silly dance because he and his friends got Pizza to eat.

So I agree with you Valkyrie, this makes perfectly sense, especially since the Final days did not even start at that point.

And about the burgers themselves (From Wikipedia)
As versions of the meal have been served for over a century, its origin remains ambiguous.The popular book The Art of Cookery Made Plain and Easy by Hannah Glasse included a recipe in 1758 as "Hamburgh sausage", which suggested to serve it "roasted with toasted bread under it". A similar snack was also popular in Hamburg by the name "Rundstück warm" ("bread roll warm") in 1869 or earlier, and supposedly eaten by many emigrants on their way to America, but may have contained roasted beefsteak rather than Frikadeller. Hamburg steak is reported to have been served between two pieces of bread on the Hamburg America Line, which began operations in 1847. Each of these may mark the invention of the Hamburger, and explain the name.

Hamburgers are typically sold at fast-food restaurants, diners, and specialty and high-end restaurants. There are many international and regional variations of hamburgers.

I marked the high-end restaurant because these are not just sold at McDonalds.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

No, but it still was more fitting in the fantasy setting of Ishgard than eating hamburgers that came straight out of a McDonald's bag with the world on the brink of ending. The two scenes are not remotely similar in terms of how dissonant they were with the tone and setting their respective expansions were supposed to depict.

You're not going to convince me that having a fancy dinner in Aymeric's mansion where he treated the player with respect and not goofiness is in any way comparable to seeing G'raha Tia wipe the cheese falling off his burger or Alisae taking the pickles off of hers.

We weren't in Medieval Ishgard....we were in Sharlyan that is leagues ahead in Technology with a more Modern aesthetic.
There was no disrespect to the player or the games story. You are caught up on literally nothing, and think this criticism bears any weight to the game and effected it in such a negative way that its worth spending so much time criticizing it.

Also, there was no McDonolds, there was an Eatery that has created and served vast amounts of different types of Food. A hamburger is not that out of this world.

[aveyond-dreams]

We weren't in Medieval Ishgard....we were in Sharlyan that is leagues ahead in Technology with a more Modern aesthetic.
There was no disrespect to the player or the games story.

Sharlayan, the nation that had been alluded to as being cruel and merciless when it came to handling the way in which they hoarded knowledge had an aesthetic so modern and unserious that it disillusioned those of us who expected something more compelling to be done with the place. You can be technologically advanced and modern while still keeping a tone appropriate for the expansion - but instead we got The Last Stand, dormitories, and far too many classroom lectures for my liking.

I would like to see the future locations of this game handled with better care than this one was.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Sharlayan, the nation that had been alluded to as being cruel and merciless when it came to handling the way in which they hoarded knowledge had an aesthetic so modern and unserious that it disillusioned those of us who expected something more compelling to be done with the place. You can be technologically advanced and modern while still keeping a tone appropriate for the expansion - but instead we got The Last Stand, dormitories, and far too many classroom lectures for my liking.

I would like to see the future locations of this game handled with better care than this one was.

Now you literally have no defense or argument here.
All you are saying is you dont like it. Could have just said that instead of all the extra nonsense.