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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Says you. I rather enjoyed endwalker.

    You are not the sole owner of standards of this game.


    Also, again, I'd like to point out that you can, in fact, play XIV, enjoy it, and also play other games, and enjoy them. Crisis core remake will not stop me from enjoying XIV, even though I will play it. You seem to be a 1 game person. I am not.
    He and a few others come off as those who are burnt-out but are in a denial stage of grief. As they constantly use language those with burnt-out use but they have this strong aversion to admitting it. That admitting that the thing they enjoyed is no longer for them or at least not satisfying the itch it once used to is shameful in some way. That they're unable to play XIV unless it's their number game they pour more hours into than the other ones. Reminds me of when I stopped listening to a XIV podcast. I and several others stopped listening to it because hearing how checked out and burnt-out on the game the hosts were every week wasn't fun. That they again felt guilt and pressure to continue on because they were hosts of a podcast. It also didn't help that some of them had another thing that they were more interested in that they then would spend more time promoting then the XIV podcast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai View Post
    Neither are you. I love this community, all the rampant hypocrisy makes my day slightly less BORING.

    In all seriousness, the entitled and condescending tone in so many of this forums' retorts make it hard to take people seriously on the best of days.



    In the future, I'd appreciate if you didn't make assault allegories. Making light of that to take a crack at Aveyond is offensive, totally beyond the pale and unworthy of these forums. Or anywhere, really.

    Kindly never utter such things again in my presence.

    ~Signed, someone who has gone through something of that nature~

    ~THANKS SO MUCH FOR SO CASUALLY REMINDING ME~
    Except I don't come here and insist my opinion is the one that matters and everything I say is the only correct way.


    And if you want to talk about condescending, look no further than the people who can't talk about venat without "mOmMy GoDdEsS" ing her name and acting like anyone who likes her character is flawed as a person.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 08-16-2022 at 03:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Except I don't come here and insist my opinion is the one that matters and everything I say is the only correct way.


    And if you want to talk about condescending, look no further than the people who can't talk about venat without "mOmMy GoDdEsS" ing her name and acting like anyone who likes her character is flawed as a person.
    Whether you're for or against Venat, you cannot deny she exudes Big Momma Energy™.

    She is referred to as the Mothercrystal for a reason lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai View Post
    Neither are you. I love this community, all the rampant hypocrisy makes my day slightly less BORING.

    In all seriousness, the entitled and condescending tone in so many of this forums' retorts make it hard to take people seriously on the best of days.



    In the future, I'd appreciate if you didn't make assault allegories. Making light of that to take a crack at Aveyond is offensive, totally beyond the pale and unworthy of these forums. Or anywhere, really.

    Kindly never utter such things again in my presence.

    ~Signed, someone who has gone through something of that nature~

    ~THANKS SO MUCH FOR SO CASUALLY REMINDING ME~
    Sorry will come off as harsh or maybe I just missed the sarcasm.

    Why exactly should someone be mindful of what they say around you?

    If I missed the sarcasm sorry.
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    Oh no, the Ascian sigs have invaded.
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    As opposed to the genocide the Ancients were planning against all the non-Ancient life that appeared after Zodiark but before the Sundering, or the genocides the Ascians committed against eight shards.

    So basically both sides are terrible and we're better off without all of them.
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    Which she enabled by deliberately sparing Emet-Selch, as per the Q&A. What is your point?

    BTW, there was no genocide of "all the non-ancient life" that appeared after Zodiark, just a portion of the life Zodiark fostered, which the ancients were divided over and was in the context of those souls inside Zodiark being in a purgatory, and which was not her primary, secondary or even tertiary reason for performing it.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 08-16-2022 at 07:54 AM.

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    I already stated my point.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    So basically both sides are terrible and we're better off without all of them.
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    Yeah, and I am sure we could repeat such comments if a supreme deity appeared pointing to all the frailties of the sundered, mirrored in mankind, that resulted in their decision to break them, lest they fall prey to Dead Ends 1, 2 or possibly even 3, or some other creative instantiation of forging ahead. The sundered are pretty terrible, after all - there's those sordid caves in Sastasha, the persecution of the Garlean Purebloods fomenting the conditions to later form an empire bent on revenge through conquest, the conditions in Doma contributing to Yotsuyu's vindictiveness, the zombification of Sildih (and again Ul'dah exploiting the beast tribe categorisation for the pursuit of its own profit), the murder of Ratatoskr and concealment of the event, the Allagan empire and wanton experimentation which led Amon to revile present-day mankind as well as the ancients... the fact that our very own WoL genocided a bunch of gorillas in a fate... the usual fate killing sprees... the fact that the sundered aren't all vegans and so engage in habitual mass slaughter of non-human lifeforms. And plenty I am forgetting.

    We'd be much better off without them all.

    (Of course the story never takes this approach with them and instead positions them as having the right to fight to exist in spite of all of the above, in spite of all their imperfections and misdeeds... a perfectly fine position, I just wish that courtesy were extended to the ancients in the story's narrative treatment of them.)
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    Last edited by Lauront; 08-16-2022 at 08:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    (Of course the story never takes this approach with them and instead positions them as having the right to fight to exist in spite of all of the above... a perfectly fine position, I just wish that courtesy were extended to the ancients in the story's narrative treatment of them.)
    It does. They just lost and the story has us on the other side. The story also acknowledges their side and characters understand why they are trying to do this. That doesn't mean we were going to let them do it.
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