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[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Good god, the Emet fanclub is still raging about that evil wicked vile hateful witch Venat and her murderous evil horrible nastiness that must be SHAME SHAME SHAMED verbally in the MSQ otherwise this is the worst story in the entire universe because we didn't spend 4 hours talking about how duplicitous and horrible and genocidal and awful and mean and stinky and disgusting and wretched that awful backstabbing hag Venat killed the beautiful perfect Amaurotine race through her pettiness and laziness?

I must be on the FF14 forums.

After a careful Analyses...this checks out

[AwesomeJr44]

Good god, the Emet fanclub is still raging about that evil wicked vile hateful witch Venat and her murderous evil horrible nastiness that must be SHAME SHAME SHAMED verbally in the MSQ otherwise this is the worst story in the entire universe because we didn't spend 4 hours talking about how duplicitous and horrible and genocidal and awful and mean and stinky and disgusting and wretched that awful backstabbing hag Venat killed the beautiful perfect Amaurotine race through her pettiness and laziness?

I must be on the FF14 forums.

More like some people recognize that committing genocide is an act of great evil, even if done with good intent (which whether she had good intent or not is honestly debatable if we look at what the story shows and not tells as the two contradict). They also recognize that when you make a story about such a horrible crime, you have to be careful not to glorify that action. The game doesn't do a good job at treating it with the care a topic like genocide needs as the scions, especially Y'shtola bend over backwards to make sure that everyone knows shes a good person for killing a planet's worth of people. Then the Venat enjoyers got mad that someone dare not love their mommy as much as they do, so they decided to form the derail brigade in an attempt to derail any thread that isn't to their liking. And btw, a Venat fan is the one who brought up the topic of Venat in this thread sweetie

So yes, you are on the FF14 forums. Welcome to the land of spiteful Venat enjoyers who insist that everyone like an unlikable murderer.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

So yes, you are on the FF14 forums. Welcome to the land of spiteful Venat enjoyers who insist that everyone like an unlikable murderer.

All Im seeing is a Venat hater who needs everyone to know they hate Venat so much and will go at people who do like her.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Im sorta curious why the story team chose Troia as a focus on our first major lore piece of the 13th shard's world. My only guess since Troia was one of the kingdom's in FFIV that flourished in everlasting bounty and grace then it would prolly make a good pick to see it's downfall. But I would've imagined they'd choose Baron.

My other guess why is that from the trailer it seems that Scarmiglione will be the boss fight for that dungeon, and since Troia housed the Earth Crystal in FFIV and him being the elemental fiend of earth, then there's the connection.

[jameseoakes]

Im sorta curious why the story team chose, Troia as a focus on our first major lore piece of the 13th shard's world. My only guess since Troia was one of the kingdom's in FFIV that flourished in everlasting bounty and grace then it would prolly make a good pick to see it's downfall. But I would've imagined they'd choose Baron.

My other guess why is that from the trailer it seems that Scarmiglione will be the boss fight for that dungeon, and since Troia housed the Earth Crystal in FFIV, that would link him to it.

This point I'm a bit worried about the story telling for 6.2, it looks like it's going far too all in with trying to remake FF4 that I'm worried they aren't really thinking about making a good story with it

[Atelier-Bagur]

This point I'm a bit worried about the story telling for 6.2, it looks like it's going far too all in with trying to remake FF4 that I'm worried they aren't really thinking about making a good story with it

I dont necessarily see it as them trying to remake FFIV. Its just them doing what they did before with a lot of the lore pieces in this game that reference older FF titles by recontextualizing them into a new meaning. We already have the plot being different from main FFIV where its us trying to figure out what happened to Vtra's sis, the mystery behind the 13th shard along with now learning about reaper lady and whats her deal.

[jameseoakes]

I dont necessarily see it as them trying to remake FFIV. Its just them doing what they did before with a lot of the lore pieces in this game that reference older FF titles by recontextualizing them into a new meaning. We already have the plot being different from main FFIV where its us trying to figure out what happened to Vtra's sis, the mystery behind the 13th shard along with now learning about reaper lady and whats her deal.

Outside of maybe the 12 parts I don't think there been a main story part that has imported this much almost whole from another game and they don't really seem to recontextualising them either....maybe I am just being bitter after the Eden stuff but not really liking how much ff4 stuff seems to be getting imported

[Atelier-Bagur]

Outside of maybe the 12 parts I don't think there been a main story part that has imported this much almost whole from another game and they don't really seem to recontextualising them either....maybe I am just being bitter after the Eden stuff but not really liking how much ff4 stuff seems to be getting imported

Uh...did you already forget Crystal Tower in ARR and Shadowbringers being almost a full re-imagining of FFIII's plot?

[BaconBits]

Okay, let's not pretend that Big Momma Genocydaelyn didn't wipe an entire race off the face of the universe, erased their culture, drastically shortened the lifespans of their sundered copies, and took their memories away. Let's also not pretend that the story didn't essentially sweep all that under the rug in order to praise her as a noble and heroic figure, with no one calling her out on her deeds save for herself. Let's also not pretend that the blood Emet-Selch, Lahabrea, Elidibus and the rest of the sundered Ascians spilled in their desperate attempts to Rejoin their worlds lies on her hands, considering she intentionally allowed the three Unsundered Ancients to escape, knowing full well what would happen considering we ourselves told her.

Emet-Selch is decidedly no saint, and the story goes out of it's way to make sure you understand that, but with Venat it practically bends over backwards to give her the "Sloppeh Toppeh Gawk Gawk Wombo Combo 9000" to have Hades of all people begrudgingly praise her.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Guess we're having this argument yet again.