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  1. #41
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Oka namakiri ruined the job for me. Pointless extra cast at original midare potencies once every 2 minutes. Woo....


    Nerfed midare bad.
    Ogi Namakiri was perfectly fine and the new 2-minute/1-minute rotation was a lot more interesting than the old loop.

    What is not fine is removing kaiten and destroying any meaning of kenki management and then turning big hit casts into wet noodles. The entire appeal of sam for most people was the build up into big hits. Now those moves are just flashy animation with no spice to them. There's no excitement anymore to them and making them have cast times now is completely stupid. Why am I casting for something that is weak as hell? My regular attacks crit for nearly as much as midare and ogi.
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  2. #42
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    I'm not pretending.

    You need to get some fresh air and clam down.
    Leave me out of this.
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  3. #43
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    If people need to be sad about it, go cry in a corner or something.
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    You've no right to attack or try to deny people their joy or difference of opinion.
    Read what you just wrote.
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  4. #44
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    Wilford111's Avatar
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    Faux Ears
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 100
    These are some cool Live Letter thoughts.
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  5. #45
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Ogi Namakiri was perfectly fine and the new 2-minute/1-minute rotation was a lot more interesting than the old loop.

    What is not fine is removing kaiten and destroying any meaning of kenki management and then turning big hit casts into wet noodles. The entire appeal of sam for most people was the build up into big hits. Now those moves are just flashy animation with no spice to them. There's no excitement anymore to them and making them have cast times now is completely stupid. Why am I casting for something that is weak as hell? My regular attacks crit for nearly as much as midare and ogi.
    I disagree, I loved 5.x sam, and despise what they did with it in 6.0.
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  6. #46
    Player AwesomeJr44's Avatar
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    Marel Nobelle
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I remember back in my day when this thread was about a live letter. Then all the youngin's came in and made it a SAM change thread.
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  7. #47
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    Menriq's Avatar
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    Meridia Astra
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    Maduin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    And i have had enough of people pretending that they like current sam just to laugh in my face
    Who says they are pretending though? The keyword is "like". That is subjective. It is no different than any other class changes. Some SMN love the new changes, others despise it. I was not a fan of Bow Mage in HW, but a lot of people love it and want it back. Just because you don't like it (and can have very valid reasons for it) does not mean anyone having a different opinion is automatically a white knight.
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    Last edited by Menriq; 08-13-2022 at 06:21 AM.

  8. #48
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    There was quite a lot in there that I liked, but my chief complaint is Hydaelyn's "remnant" still being around somehow despite Yoshi P saying that she was literally destroyed. I thought this was a new thing, forge ahead blah blah. But I guess not... or at least not yet. :^)

    I love the look of most of the armour introduced but I am slightly puzzled by the decision to make the raid sets so glowy and over the top when traditionally that's always been a relic/ultimate weapon thing. Maybe they foresaw lower savage participation this time around and needed to add extra incentive, who knows?

    I also think that the rat mount for the Variant dungeon is a bit of an odd choice considering the backstory of Sildih and how dark it is. But, I'm also well aware there's a significant % of the community that probably had no intention to touch this content (enter dark souls strawman take), unless a new fat ca- uh, I mean, elongated rat was added. So eh. I can see why they did even if I don't like it.

    Soundtrack was a1 as usual, soken knocked it out of the park with that classical/harpsichord song, and I am very much looking forward to Panda pt2. The carbuncle fight looks like it'll have some cool mechanics. Hopefully the plot there will have some semblance of nuance, because that's been sorely lacking in 6.0-.1.
    Isn't this just the crystal that Hydaelyn used to map Meteions journey across the universe though, as opposed to part of her herself? - Something that given the circumstance is likely to play significance into shard hopping.

    This whole "forge ahead blah blah." as you so wrote still needs to be done gradually and not just an on-off switch (Had enough of that with them suddenly pulling a personality change for Elidibus out of the hat). So there are still more than likely going to be references to Hydaelyn in the story, most especially with that of the 24-man raids, just as there might be references to Zodiark. That doesn't mean the story is going to be all about them again, so it's not really alarming.
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  9. #49
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    Lustre's Avatar
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    Tatsuya Sarugaku
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Isn't this just the crystal that Hydaelyn used to map Meteions journey across the universe though, as opposed to part of her herself? - Something that given the circumstance is likely to play significance into shard hopping.

    This whole "forge ahead blah blah." as you so wrote still needs to be done gradually and not just an on-off switch (Had enough of that with them suddenly pulling a personality change for Elidibus out of the hat). So there are still more than likely going to be references to Hydaelyn in the story, most especially with that of the 24-man raids, just as there might be references to Zodiark. That doesn't mean the story is going to be all about them again, so it's not really alarming.

    I just figured that since Hydaelyn herself was destroyed "completely" (yoshi's words, not mine), everything else "attached" to that would also be destroyed. But considering the amount of convenient plot macguffins introduced into Endwalker for things to make sense (see kairos and dynamis), I can believe that probably won't be the case. It's just a sore spot for me because I disliked EW so much and I would love to be onto the next thing without constantly reminding me of all the things I disliked about it. Convenient Universe Spanning Tracking Device is one of those things unfortunately. I hope you're correct and we don't carry on with this "hydaelyn's chosen" stuff. I just want to go on a plain honest adventure with new characters and a new plot haha. Some real stakes would be nice too.
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  10. #50
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    I just figured that since Hydaelyn herself was destroyed "completely" (yoshi's words, not mine), everything else "attached" to that would also be destroyed. But considering the amount of convenient plot macguffins introduced into Endwalker for things to make sense (see kairos and dynamis), I can believe that probably won't be the case. It's just a sore spot for me because I disliked EW so much and I would love to be onto the next thing without constantly reminding me of all the things I disliked about it. Convenient Universe Spanning Tracking Device is one of those things unfortunately. I hope you're correct and we don't carry on with this "hydaelyn's chosen" stuff. I just want to go on a plain honest adventure with new characters and a new plot haha. Some real stakes would be nice too.
    I mean if we are being frank then the entirety of Amaurots recreation in the Tempest should have fallen to dust. I know it has been stated before about aether, but I'm not sure of the capacity or context that it was stated. - I think it will happen, but it really needs to be done in a subtle and smooth way as opposed to just sudden and forced, with the latter arguably being worse than subtle references. Maybe outside of this people will only reference the star as being Hydaelyn, with some referencing it as Etheirys, and some something else entirely. Different cultures and all.

    Personally, I can't wait to be on different adventures with other companions than the Scions, but if this comes at the expense of the many plot points that may get dropped as a result, then no thanks!
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