Live Letter Thoughts

[Deveryn]

It's noted in one of those many threads that Kaiten wasn't working with additions they had planned, so it was really less about dumbing things down and more about making sure things functioned as intended. There's no denying the flow is different, but you'll be getting the same result, if not something better. If people need to be sad about it, go cry in a corner or something. Don't start harassing others who are genuinely enjoying it (with a fresh perspective no less).

The hard truth is none of your past experiences matter to those of us who haven't been there. You've no right to attack or try to deny people their joy or difference of opinion.

[Kaurhz]

It's noted in one of those many threads that Kaiten wasn't working with additions they had planned, so it was really less about dumbing things down and more about making sure things functioned as intended. There's no denying the flow is different, but you'll be getting the same result, if not something better. If people need to be sad about it, go cry in a corner or something. Don't start harassing others who are genuinely enjoying it (with a fresh perspective no less).

Just to correct this, since it isn't entirely correct. But they stated:

- To resolve issues with widely fluctuating DPS from critical hits, the actions Midare Setsugekka, Kaeshi: Setsugekka, Oga Namikiri and Kaeshi: Namikiri will now be guaranteed critical hits.
- To reduce action bloat, Hissatsu: Kaiten has been removed.
*In accordance with this change, action potencies have been adjusted

Pretty sure nothing about "Wasn't functioning with additions they had planned" was not mentioned in the notes correlating to this change.

Whether I agree with this or not is an entirely different matter in case anyone somehow manages to make my post synonymous with defending the decision.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

And this is what i do not understand. you saying that its action bloat but then you put in shoha 2. to me common sense whould had just upgrade shoha to shoha 2 and just add the aoe effect. Like how they did it with pladins spirts within to Expiacion

That's button bloat. With the changes to Sam in 6.0, kaiten became action bloat.

6.0 is what ruined Sam. Not 6.1

[Axxion]

That's button bloat. With the changes to Sam in 6.0, kaiten became action bloat.

6.0 is what ruined Sam. Not 6.1

I was more towards the hotbar scenario or they can take a few skills and have it combo right back of each other. Im just asking question to get a better understanding

[Kaurhz]

And this is what i do not understand. you saying that its action bloat but then you put in shoha 2. to me common sense whould had just upgrade shoha to shoha 2 and just add the aoe effect. Like how they did it with pladins spirts within to Expiacion

I would have just merged Tsubame Gaeshi with the Iajutsu, to be honest. Many classes can already flip between actions, so there is no real reason why it can't be applied, and, well... You can only use Gaeshi immediately following an Iajutsu anyway. But yes, you could just have placed Shoha II as a job trait and then have it as something like "Delivers an attack to all nearby enemies with a potency of 520 for the first enemy and 200 for all remaining enemies". In general, these feel much less inconsequential.

[Tetsujin]

It's noted in one of those many threads that Kaiten wasn't working with additions they had planned, so it was really less about dumbing things down and more about making sure things functioned as intended. There's no denying the flow is different, but you'll be getting the same result, if not something better. If people need to be sad about it, go cry in a corner or something. Don't start harassing others who are genuinely enjoying it (with a fresh perspective no less).

The hard truth is none of your past experiences matter to those of us who haven't been there. You've no right to attack or try to deny people their joy or difference of opinion.

So they replace it with nothing and leaves us hanging, apparently lie about feedback, and go diddle with the rest of the kit. For some reason. Sick. 10/10, amazing change and big effort!
If results were what matters most, we'd all have the braindead SMN rotations that play themselves I hear so much about. Well, maybe that's our future given how this is going.

Edit: I saw what you added after the post. I haven't attacked anyone, but people sure as hell seem bothered that I (admittedly, erroneously) announced my departure based on the reasons I did.

[Liam_Harper]

If people need to be sad about it, go cry in a corner or something.

You've no right to attack or try to deny people their joy or difference of opinion.

Read what you just wrote.

[AwesomeJr44]

I remember back in my day when this thread was about a live letter. Then all the youngin's came in and made it a SAM change thread.

[Alleo]

I remember back in my day when this thread was about a live letter. Then all the youngin's came in and made it a SAM change thread.

It fits with the liveletter itself. I watched with Youtube and there was one person who constantly went on about the samurai skill. So its not a surprise seeing this happening here too.

About the live letter itself:

I am sorry Adult Vritra but I have no time for the void. Gonna tame animals and harvest stuff. I might go out to do the daily Omekron quests because those look awesome too.

Also cant wait to see the dance number.

So I loved it and wished that the patch was out next week because I cant wait to play it.