Melee classes are sad in CC

[Ransu]

Except I'm not wrong, dude. That's the entire problem here. I am telling you how RPR works at high skill, how it is a very strong and very effective class at high skill that's been seeing a sharp increase in pick rates on Crystal because of this (second only to MNK, and even then not by much - I literally see MNK and RPR more than NIN now), and you're refusing to accept it because it doesn't jive with your personal experience and because you think I need to have played some arbitrary number of games as RPR to understand how RPR works and plays.

I think part of the issue is that RPR is a playmaker. If you have a team that doesn't focus targets, doesn't switch targets, and is basically off licking windows instead of paying attention... yeah, RPR's gonna feel bad. But those are PEBKAC issues, not issues with the class itself. Some classes are simply better than others at compensating for or carrying bad teammates - and RPR ain't one of them. But that doesn't mean the class is weak, or that it needs much of anything in the way of fixes or buffs, because that would more than likely make them overpowered in high skill games where your teammates *are* executing on the openings you're creating, are focusing properly, etc.

I don't know what rating you've been playing at. But by time you're reaching upper 50 levels of rating, you should start seeing skilled players more often and you'll notice a marked increase in RPR's effectiveness. It's the same with DNC, SCH, and pretty much any other class that operates on setting things up for their teammates to take advantage of.

Man the level of play on crystal must be really trash lol.

[Bloodthrone]

We are going to tell you this again Gserpent PLAY THE DAMN CLASS OR SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!! As I told you before "KNOWLEDGE is NOTHING without EXPERIENCE" everything looks good on paper or on a video until it's put into practice, once you've put it into practice then you will understand. So, you can claim you are right until the sky falls but you will still be insanely unreliable and lack all credibility on the matter.

[MonteCristo]

Sadly the very small exclusive group of top 100 players that include reapers aren't reading this thread. If there are ANY top 100 reapers that see this thread please respond! We lowly reapers suck and don't play the job correct at all so we need further validation for consideration

[MonteCristo]

We are going to tell you this again Gserpent PLAY THE DAMN CLASS OR SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!! As I told you before "KNOWLEDGE is NOTHING without EXPERIENCE" everything looks good on paper or on a video until it's put into practice, once you've put it into practice then you will understand. So, you can claim you are right until the sky falls but you will still be insanely unreliable and lack all credibility on the matter.

I second this...starting to regret how much energy i wasted on his antics. Feel like i fell for the obvious bait smh

[Bloodthrone]

I second this...starting to regret how much energy i wasted on his antics. Feel like i fell for the obvious bait smh

Don't worry you're alone my friend.

[Lustre]

Just ignore that guy, he attempts to derail any pvp discussion with ItS A SkiLL IsSuE and cannot be taken in good faith considering he continues to lecture people on a job he doesnt even play. Anyone would think the dude's on SE PR payroll.

[MrSigy]

Reaper is fine tbh same with dragoon.
Reaper LB is extremely underrated in lower brackets, same goes for dancers.

Nin/Mnk are not, they are too strong for how their lb works and they generate it too quickly.
Same goes for whm lb, while sage is suffering with prolly the longest LB charge time in the entire game.

[Bureda]

Reaper is fine tbh same with dragoon.
Reaper LB is extremely underrated in lower brackets, same goes for dancers.

Nin/Mnk are not, they are too strong for how their lb works and they generate it too quickly.
Same goes for whm lb, while sage is suffering with prolly the longest LB charge time in the entire game.

MNK LB is obnoxious but they are the last viable melee we have. As a NIN you'll never get your LB off in ranked because some WHM or PLD will cuck you and outside of the LB pressure, every time you stealth you are also easy to guard against. Outside of those two windows there's no melee pressure from a NIN unlike MNK and DRG that always bring the heat. You already see more MNKs and soon you'll see more DRGs than NINs in due time.

[MonteCristo]

Just ignore that guy, he attempts to derail any pvp discussion with ItS A SkiLL IsSuE and cannot be taken in good faith considering he continues to lecture people on a job he doesnt even play. Anyone would think the dude's on SE PR payroll.

Im assuming youve played reaper?

[Bloodthrone]

Reaper is fine tbh same with dragoon.
Reaper LB is extremely underrated in lower brackets, same goes for dancers.

Nin/Mnk are not, they are too strong for how their lb works and they generate it too quickly.
Same goes for whm lb, while sage is suffering with prolly the longest LB charge time in the entire game.

Sorry we disagree RPR has the slowest burst timing and lowest consistent dps rate on top of that the LB is vulnerable to CC all the other classes aren't, LB is good on cluch and controlling the flow of battle though so I agree there.