Melee classes are sad in CC

[Zachia]

Reapers and Bards are underperforming way to much to be allowed into CC. If you aren't performing as well as a Monk / Sam for melee or as a Mechanist / RDM as range than ya bringing the team down. Reaper is the only melee class thats sad in this game everyone else is doing just fine.

[Bloodthrone]

Id LOVE all of this but we would never get all of it. Not gonna lie....if they let us keep immortal sacrifice stacks on death that alone would make me shut up

Fair enough lol

[MonteCristo]

so many crazy people here trying to blame everyone else for their pvp problems speaking for myself i will spend my time in savage where it is safe.

Did g serpent send u?

[Bloodthrone]

Did g serpent send u?

There'll be people who sympathize nothing we can do about it just ignore him.

[Bloodthrone]

Gil is meaningless. I have 4 subs that print it for me passively. Why would I want it? And we both know that even if I played an entire season of Reaper, if I came here and maintained what I've been saying from the start, you'd generate some new excuse to discredit my opinion because... guess what? To admit I'm right is admitting that you aren't anywhere *near* as good as you think you are. And people on this forum are incapable of doing that - hence all the people claiming balance issues, design issues, or whatever other thing they can gin up to do anything but have to admit their own inadequacies.

And yeah, Credit Rating *is* MM. It's a pretty garbage version of it, but it does function as it its intended function. The higher your rating goes, the more likely you're going to see fellow high-rated players in your games, and *most* of those players will at least be competent at the game, and some will even be good at it. Near as we can tell, the system tries to balance teams by total Credit Rating, and if there are multiple high-rating players queuing at the same time, it's very likely that they'll end up on different teams (going to be hard to put two 5000+ players on the same team and still have both teams even, after all.)

Of course, we can go the other way - if credit means nothing, then why aren't you top 100? After all, even I could do it, and I didn't have to play that many games. So which excuse do you find more convenient?

So, what you're saying is you are a wuss who can talk the talk but won't walk the walk......get the hell out of here dude you are just a wrench.

[KhudusQestir]

So, what you're saying is you are a wuss who can talk the talk but won't walk the walk......get the hell out of here dude you are just a wrench.

It's fine. He doesn't know what he's talking about but he's going to add RPR to his playlist and he'll learn how wrong he is.

....Maybe

I'll probably add in RPR since the playstyle will probably suit me.

[Gserpent]

So, what you're saying is you are a wuss who can talk the talk but won't walk the walk......get the hell out of here dude you are just a wrench.

Dude, I could grind RPR to 90 through dungeons in a few days and what would it prove? We have no way of proving how many games of CC a given character has played on any given class because SE doesn't like stats (apparently), so it's all just hearsay and assumptions. I have PLD at 90 - surely that means I must play a lot of games as PLD! Except I have played exactly two games of CC on PLD, and neither of them were on ranked. So how would I "prove" I know or don't know PLD, other than the actual arguments and information I present?

And like I said - I already know the class, I know how it plays, I know its strengths and weaknesses, and I know how to play it. PvP in this game is not complicated. Classes literally have 6 or sometimes 7 buttons unique to them, plus a few more shared buttons. There aren't many moving parts. It's not terribly difficult to understand how to play with, as, and against a class if you understand the game as a whole. A Terran player doesn't need to play Protoss in order to understand the qualities unique to that race and how they fit into PvT, and Starcraft is a *far* more complicated game than Crystalline Conflict is. Or you don't need to play Guile in order to understand how Guile works and how to fight him effectively as Zangief, or whatever. Pick a game, dude.

Are you seriously telling me that if I came in here with 150 more games played, a level 90 Reaper, and my stance had not changed, you'd actually be willing to admit you were wrong, that you aren't an expert and that you have a lot to learn? You and I both know that's a load of nonsense - so why are you so adamant about pretending otherwise?

You and the other clowns are just here to whine and cry and complain so that you can do anything possible to avoid having to admit that you suck at the game and that your failures are your own, not the game's. If you and the others spent half as much time analyzing your play and trying to actually understand the game as you spend crying here and having pity parties, you'd be a lot better at the game.

[Chiyeko]

Like I said try to other datacenter and see how long you hold up as a rpr, be quit surprise how fast they get own as melee. And purify need a rework if you do Frontline its not enough to stop all the cc repeatedly being chain on 1 person or in crystal rank..

[Bloodthrone]

It's fine. He doesn't know what he's talking about but he's going to add RPR to his playlist and he'll learn how wrong he is.

....Maybe

I wouldn't hold my breath, he would have day's ago and still hasn't but what ever I don't care what he says anymore his opinion really doesn't matter.

[MonteCristo]

Dude, I could grind RPR to 90 through dungeons in a few days and what would it prove? We have no way of proving how many games of CC a given character has played on any given class because SE doesn't like stats (apparently), so it's all just hearsay and assumptions. I have PLD at 90 - surely that means I must play a lot of games as PLD! Except I have played exactly two games of CC on PLD, and neither of them were on ranked. So how would I "prove" I know or don't know PLD, other than the actual arguments and information I present?

And like I said - I already know the class, I know how it plays, I know its strengths and weaknesses, and I know how to play it. PvP in this game is not complicated. Classes literally have 6 or sometimes 7 buttons unique to them, plus a few more shared buttons. There aren't many moving parts. It's not terribly difficult to understand how to play with, as, and against a class if you understand the game as a whole. A Terran player doesn't need to play Protoss in order to understand the qualities unique to that race and how they fit into PvT, and Starcraft is a *far* more complicated game than Crystalline Conflict is. Or you don't need to play Guile in order to understand how Guile works and how to fight him effectively as Zangief, or whatever. Pick a game, dude.

Are you seriously telling me that if I came in here with 150 more games played, a level 90 Reaper, and my stance had not changed, you'd actually be willing to admit you were wrong, that you aren't an expert and that you have a lot to learn? You and I both know that's a load of nonsense - so why are you so adamant about pretending otherwise?

You and the other clowns are just here to whine and cry and complain so that you can do anything possible to avoid having to admit that you suck at the game and that your failures are your own, not the game's. If you and the others spent half as much time analyzing your play and trying to actually understand the game as you spend crying here and having pity parties, you'd be a lot better at the game.

G Serpent.....If you actually played the job extensively the climate of this ENTIRE conversation would be different...we would actually consider what you have to say BUT there is something you lack...credibility. This isnt a complicated conversation or complicated mode by any means we aren't dumb. I don't know what u main but imagine it underperforming severely then someone who hasn't played it once trying to tell u that YOU suck and the job plays just fine...im sorry but u are treading the line of troll at this point and strangely enough i think u might actually be serious and if u are there are bigger issues at hand...respectfully