Please let us queue with our friends in CC

[KhudusQestir]

Well since you want to compare anecdotes.

Here is the stats of someone I know who won Rival Wings 74 times in a row with no wintrading.

https://imgur.com/a/2rnmqyP

Do you want to guess if they were in a premade ?

.... are you just trying to argue with me or are we having a calm discussion about this?

Let's please be civil in my thread. Otherwise, I'm just going to ignore you.
I hope I'm wrong but if not and you're gonna give me attitude then I'll just not take you seriously and just let you bump my thread and talk around you. I'm here to be serious, not get into meaningless fights.

Now if you have a point, please be more elaborate about it, and don't make me waste my post with a silly 'yes or no' question when I'm limited on them. :/

[GordonGeeko]

I'm being civil, I'm just proving to you that there are players that are much, much better than others and that will result in an overwhelming win rate. That was over 74 games not one game with 4 friends of unknown skill level.

That's Rival Wings, so that's 24v24 and that's different than CC, sure, but even with 20 "randoms", the odds can still be tilted this heavily. Why wouldn't that hold in a smaller scale mode ?

In a PVP community this small, it just makes those players and teams stand out much more. A team-based competitive system is doomed to fail.

And no, I've not played Team Ranked Feast, I've started to play PVP after they ended Team Seasons, but I heard several times over that it was a wintrading mess pitting teams of different ranks together due to a lack of players. I can get back to you with more details if you want.

.... are you just trying to argue with me or are we having a calm discussion about this?

Let's please be civil in my thread. Otherwise, I'm just going to ignore you.
I hope I'm wrong but if not and you're gonna give me attitude then I'll just not take you seriously and just let you bump my thread and talk around you. I'm here to be serious, not get into meaningless fights.

Now if you have a point, please be more elaborate about it, and don't make me waste my post with a silly 'yes or no' question when I'm limited on them. :/

[KhudusQestir]

I'm being civil

Alright, I'll take your word and apologize then.

In a PVP community this small, it just makes those players and teams stand out much more. A team-based competitive system is doomed to fail.

You know... considering how popular and a massive amount of players play FFXIV; if the PvP is small, doesn't that mean there's a problem with it and it's not being fun enough? People LOVE to PvP because people LOVE to get competitive. So that sounds like a game flaw to me. Also, the whole point of a ranking system is to set players of a certain skill to go up against other players of a certain skill. It's why I brought it up. So if skill is such a problem, simply use the ranking system as other games do. They already do that for CC ranking so if people care so much in casual, do the same in casual. It's a really easy fix without having to punish other players.