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    Please let us queue with our friends in CC

    It's very important we have the ability to enjoy PvP so limiting us and forcing us to play with random people isn't something I call exciting... I believe most of us enjoy getting competitive with our friends rather than with random people. I feel it is a cause of us getting so frustrated because we feel we are forced to queue with people we don't like or know.

    I don't feel much satisfaction PvPing with someone I don't know, but if I had a friend with me then it is a different story. I'd have someone I can brag with or against considering this is Player vs Player. Especially when we're doing CASUAL when it shouldn't matter about winning or losing, we want to CASUALLY play and enjoy with our friends. It's why we have people timing to queue together cause we want to play with our friends.

    This is a Multiplayer game, let us co-op with our friends! We don't even mind being on opposite teams, feel free to randomize that. We just want to play with our friends. It is nice to have more than just frontline to play and queue with my partner as well. Some people join this game to play with their girlfriends or even husband. So to limit that just lowers the PvP population in this game... We might as well play something else if we're with our friends or our spouse I guess...

    I have other issues with PvP too but I want SE to be aware that we don't like PvP solo queue


    edit: I want to add more to this first post from the discussions I've had to help further a solution to try and get more understanding and possibly happier with the PvP system.

    1. Casual allows you to queue solo or with 1 or 4 friends in a party.
    -Some people worry that stronger players will team up together and demolish newer players taking away their chance to try out or enjoy PvP. My suggestion is from seeing other games, the ranking system has a certain gap that allows certain rank players to play with one another. Players can derank or rank up on their own terms through the ranking system to help play with certain friends.

    2. Seperate two types of ranking systems.
    -Solo queue ranking that focuses with only random players so there are no premade teams.
    -A premade party queue with up to 1-5 player queue to allow players to gather as many of their friends and if necessary grab as many randoms to fill their spots.


    The mention of Custom Match
    That's not what is being asked for. That requires 10 total players to get together creating not just one but two full teams. We want to be able to queue with a smaller amount of friends to help enjoy PvP. Maybe even have a mentor queue with us to help learn or hold our hand in the very intimidating PvP matches.
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    Last edited by KhudusQestir; 07-09-2022 at 06:09 AM. Reason: adding more solutions

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    Xel Xelpht
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    I don't want to queue with my friends for any other reason than the overpowering desire to join forces with those who aren't clearly sniffing glue.

    Would it result in more wins? Most likely.
    Would it make others feel weak and powerless? Absolutely, ergo it will never happen.
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    ...and if you can't get 4 others you end up against premades on voicechat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xel View Post
    Would it result in more wins? Most likely.
    Would it make others feel weak and powerless? Absolutely, ergo it will never happen.
    I don't really agree. If you get to queue with your friends and be at the same time, that should mean the same for the other team that also gives them just as much of an upper hand. I've also queued by doing the countdown with friends, landed on the same team, and still lost. Also, in casual it shouldn't matter who wins or loses, just have fun.

    Sure, there may be downfalls to this but at least we can play with our friends and enjoy PvP with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlotte_Wells View Post
    ...and if you can't get 4 others you end up against premades on voicechat.
    I don't see this as an issue. Sounds like team play to me. I've played other PvP group games where there are teams with communication against teams without communication and still had an equal play. Sure, there can be advantages but it's doesn't change the game, and isn't the point of a team to cooperate?
    You can always have the rank system to focus on that. So there's casual to play with friends and rank for your solo queues
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    You are implying the other team will have the same level of skill and comms by default, which is just amusing on so many levels.
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    I honestly think the game shouldn't cater to Solo PvP players. It's an MMO, 100% for adding teams to both ranked and casual honestly, would make this terrible mode more fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xel View Post
    You are implying the other team will have the same level of skill and comms by default, which is just amusing on so many levels.
    I'm implying it wouldn't matter whether they did or didn't. I even said I've queued with friends, landed on the same team, and still had fair chances of losing.
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    I also want to point out my friend queued with 4 others and told me how she was left with all the randoms while her friends were all together with one random. Who won? My friend did with the randoms. It doesn't matter whether you queue with your friends or not. Your chances of losing or winning are just as fair as playing with a bunch of people who don't know each other.
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    I had this discussion on many social platforms and the instant response of the FF community is that "that's unfair"... this made me feel like most people who gave me this response have never played any other PvP game...

    You CAN make a queue for "premade" parties and "single" players. So you can choose to queue in the "blind" solo life if you wish to. There are enough players to have 2 queues, so I see no issue here.

    This method is very common in PvP games, so I wonder how come everyone instantly thinks people want to stomp on others to play with their friends. No, just make 2 queues pepe heads. Lmao.
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