Volcanic Heart is a bad map

[Apeman]

So you say to basically "git good' and then detail why range have a large disadvantage on the map. I also love your idea of just always make sure guard and purify are up...you do realize these actions have cooldowns right and may be needed to be used before this part happens?

[Ransu]

So you say to basically "git good' and then detail why range have a large disadvantage on the map. I also love your idea of just always make sure guard and purify are up...you do realize these actions have cooldowns right and may be needed to be used before this part happens?

Ignore serpernt, he never knows what he's talking about.

[Zachia]

Saying you can dodge a map by not queing is admitting that the map design is bad in general, we aren't here to just accept its bad and do nothing about it, we're here to talk about how to make bad into good. And no "it killed me" isn't the reason i want it removed. The biggest reason as a ranged player i want Volcanic heart and preferably all hazard conditions removed is Line of Sight. You can negate range cast times or ranged players from excelling by constantly staying out of sight. Go in blow your cds and rotate around a pillar till they come back up. This is a common tactic for ARENA PvP in world of warcraft. It brings the range into melee's advantage. Seeing how many people probably never arena'ed in pvp world of warcraft and is white knighting square enix on this pvp forums can you truly blame individual people by telling them "don't que, its a skill issue" while believing its ok for maps to continue to be bad?

[Ransu]

Saying you can dodge a map by not queing is admitting that the map design is bad in general, we aren't here to just accept its bad and do nothing about it, we're here to talk about how to make bad into good. And no "it killed me" isn't the reason i want it removed. The biggest reason as a ranged player i want Volcanic heart and preferably all hazard conditions removed is Line of Sight. You can negate range cast times or ranged players from excelling by constantly staying out of sight. Go in blow your cds and rotate around a pillar till they come back up. This is a common tactic for ARENA PvP in world of warcraft. It brings the range into melee's advantage. Seeing how many people probably never arena'ed in pvp world of warcraft and is white knighting square enix on this pvp forums can you truly blame individual people by telling them "don't que, its a skill issue" while believing its ok for maps to continue to be bad?

I don't have a problem with a map designed to have a lot of LoS just like I don't have a problem with an open map with less LoS. That concept is fine. I have a problem with the complete garbage camera collision on VH though and I'm just in general not a fan of the disruptive design of the elemental mechanics.

[BubblyBoar]

Imagine being so bad that you call changing your tactics a map design failure. Look, ranged are actually just fine on VH. The LoS is as much a boon as a hazard. But It's designed for you to put your skill and tactics to use and use the map to your advantage. If you think that is bad designed, than it is a skill issue for you.

[Apeman]

Imagine being so bad that you call changing your tactics a map design failure. Look, ranged are actually just fine on VH. The LoS is as much a boon as a hazard. But It's designed for you to put your skill and tactics to use and use the map to your advantage. If you think that is bad designed, than it is a skill issue for you.

I bet you think 2 + 2 = 5 as well.

[MilkieTea]

I'm gonna be honest, this really does read as "I don't want to think ahead, therefore this map sucks."

There are plenty of reasons VH is my least favourite map (the colors are an eyesore, the aoe timing sucks when you're pushing the crystal, among a host of other personal reasons.)
But the way you're phrasing things just makes it sound like y'don't wanna think.

[Zachia]

You know a lot of people here saying its a skill issue probably didn't even read it at all, and those that did like yourself didn't want to put to much thought into it before defending the company or pvp in general. The sheer amount of hostility on here because of a disagreement is sad. I'd rather be the worst player than an awful human being.

[Divinemights]

You know a lot of people here saying its a skill issue probably didn't even read it at all, and those that did like yourself didn't want to put to much thought into it before defending the company or pvp in general. The sheer amount of hostility on here because of a disagreement is sad. I'd rather be the worst player than an awful human being.

It is your choice.
Butt hurt when someone revealing truth that only means you have difficulty to take criticism and that usually built to failure in reality too.
The speech in this forum is monitor by forum moderator actively (also seems the only thing they are capable to do)
If you are unable to accept this modest language, it is too bad.

[Zachia]

Call it what ever you want to justify the poor behavior here on the forums. When people can call others trash, tell others they suck and don't deserve an opinion on a public forum and then defend those people and call it out as "can't take criticism" and their posts here aren't removed but upvoted by fellow community members it makes one doubt that there is a moderator. Plus "Your" truth is only a delusion put out there to protect the mental state that this is all their is to life and this is the pinnacle of achievement you as a human being will accomplish. Because if it wasn't people wouldn't die so hard on this hill but here we are.