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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracosavarian View Post
    Your logic is just as anecdotal.
    Good, I see you understand how discorse works when there is not actual metric data displaying these kinds of things. The sky is also blue but is sometimes other colors too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeastyloins View Post
    Good, I see you understand how discorse works when there is not actual metric data displaying these kinds of things. The sky is also blue but is sometimes other colors too.
    My experience reflects their own, since the start of TBC. Your own experiences, by your words, do not. That does not discount, nor disarm their argument nor their reasoning that was cited. Their life experiences are not your own. Nor do my own experiences, match up with what you state your own to be. To bring forth a portrayal that your own experiences trump that of others, and is some unyielding truth, is disingenuous, at best.

    We agree to disagree.

    Take care, and Be Well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracosavarian View Post
    My experience reflects their own, since the start of TBC. Your own experiences, by your words, do not. That does not discount, nor disarm their argument nor their reasoning that was cited. Their life experiences are not your own. Nor do my own experiences, match up with what you state your own to be. To bring forth a portrayal that your own experiences trump that of others, and is some unyielding truth, is disingenuous, at best.

    We agree to disagree.

    Take care, and Be Well.
    Draco, each is entitled to their opinion. Wont have it any other way. But telling me that they havent seen or heard what I have, and then saying therefore it didnt happen is...disingenuous

    And kinda silly. tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Draco, each is entitled to their opinion. Wont have it any other way. But telling me that they havent seen or heard what I have, and then saying therefore it didnt happen is...disingenuous

    And kinda silly. tbh.
    I agree. Like I said, my own experiences match up with yours. But some folks in this world hold up their own views as the only truth. Which, as you said, is quite silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracosavarian View Post
    My experience reflects their own, since the start of TBC. Your own experiences, by your words, do not. That does not discount, nor disarm their argument nor their reasoning that was cited. Their life experiences are not your own. Nor do my own experiences, match up with what you state your own to be. To bring forth a portrayal that your own experiences trump that of others, and is some unyielding truth, is disingenuous, at best.

    We agree to disagree.

    Take care, and Be Well.
    I've never had a more eloquent means of saying "yeah but that's just your opinion man".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracosavarian View Post
    My experience reflects their own, since the start of TBC. Your own experiences, by your words, do not.
    Essentially: 'You didn't see what I saw so either your words don't match your experience (i.e., you're lying) or you haven't been playing for as long as I have.' ???

    Mate, you literally made a claim significantly contrary to poll data gathered over the last 15 years. Pretending that Yeasty can't have his/her own experience just because it doesn't match your own isn't even relevant here.



    But, fine, let's take a look at those anecdotes:

    You say you saw toxicity surrounding parsers. I'll give that the benefit of the doubt.

    Tell me, though: At what point toxicity over a player failing to do their job to such a degree that the remaining players' gametime over a given piece of group content was improved, despite whatever guilt they may feel, by kicking a particular player turn into "toxicity caused by parsers".

    Would it somehow have suddenly been all roses and harmony, the silence contented rather than merely angrily begrudging, so long as their failing to do their part went ill-defined?
    This is TBC we're talking about, after all. If player in question were anything but a pure DPS, there would be too many other factors involved that could give away their falling so short that people would rather take the time to replace --shouting, summoning, etc. all included-- than just deal with it. WoW's early, EQ2-esque group content design did plenty to make it preferable to just deal with underperformers than replace; to be called out for underperformance would require an extent that'd be very difficult to cover up just by blinding one's party to throughput.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 05-19-2022 at 03:31 PM.