Do NOT bring Kaiten back

[cjbeagle]

You simply dismiss others as if their thoughts are wrong.

I actually don't mind being dismissed outright - some people don't want to debate - that's fine - what draws ire is when he dismisses our viewpoints as "cringy", says we're "stubborn fools" and "just resistant to change" as if our viewpoints have no rationale while simultaneously providing no rationale for his own [steaming] hot takes.

[Ruminous]

I actually don't mind being dismissed outright - some people don't want to debate - that's fine - what draws ire is when he dismisses our viewpoints as "cringy", says we're "stubborn fools" and "just resistant to change" as if our viewpoints have no rationale while simultaneously providing no rationale for his own [steaming] hot takes.

Kind of is a good point: Means they weren't interested in discussion to begin with. But I was explaining the why's in hopes he'd be able to self-reflect. It's a skill he's lacking.

[Ceridwen]

Kind of is a good point: Means they weren't interested in discussion to begin with. But I was explaining the why's in hopes he'd be able to self-reflect. It's a skill he's lacking.

I also have to fight the urge to discipline someone else's kid, and that's what this began to feel like. It's reminding me of my new puppy, if my puppy failed to learn. I think there are just people who look around, see that someone, somewhere, is emotional about something, and then they bead in on you & start needling. That's the definition of a troll to me, and I don't think they're doing it to 'understand' or help, or anything but to get a rise. And I always fall for it! At least, the first few times. Hence, ignore becomes a beautiful thing. (also works on puppy when he's being demanding.)

[cjbeagle]

It's reminding me of my new puppy, if my puppy failed to learn.

I will concede in saying Kaiten should NOT be removed & it stripped a portion of its job identity

(weeks ago - prior to making this thread) https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...re-s-why/page6

Your puppy isn't failing to learn - it's misbehaving intentionally specifically to piss you off.

[Ceridwen]

(weeks ago - prior to making this thread) https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...re-s-why/page6

Your puppy isn't failing to learn - it's misbehaving intentionally specifically to piss you off.

I like to think that's someone else's puppy! Mine is just 9 weeks - there's hope!

I also think the Samurai was - well, the cool class. Ok, at least, I thought so. They were the 'selfish dps,' like the BLM. (*So powerful I don't HAVE to buff you peons!*) And I personally thought Kaiten was the ability that made it look that way - sleek and methodical and actually pretty wonderful. On a dragoon, I'm leaping (generally backwards, off the edge of something...) On the Reaper, I look insane. On the monk, I'm spinning upside down, like an angry potato with a HUGE kick range, and on the Ninja - I mean, I jump on a frog for no logical reason. They're just not *cool.* I like them, but it's not the same. Samurai was the only class I played on her where it actually looks like she was thinking ahead. (I mean, she wasn't, and neither am I, but it LOOKED that way.)

So - maybe that makes weird, insecure people fidgety & trollish? I assume they'd swoop in & whine at BLMs if they had some awful nerf/evisceration, too.

[cjbeagle]

I like to think that's someone else's puppy! Mine is just 9 weeks - there's hope!

I didn't phrase that well - I should have said "this puppy" instead of "your puppy". I'm sure your puppy will turn out splendidly!

So - maybe that makes weird, insecure people fidgety & trollish? I assume they'd swoop in & whine at BLMs if they had some awful nerf/evisceration, too.

You're spot-on - I don't remember the name, but some other troll was quite clear that he was rejoicing at our despair just because he'd had bad experiences with [completely different] samurai in-game being egotistical.

[AsiTsurugi]

You're spot-on - I don't remember the name, but some other troll was quite clear that he was rejoicing at our despair just because he'd had bad experiences with [completely different] samurai in-game being egotistical.

You mean the specimen that posted this? https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5962199

[Ransu]

I like to think that's someone else's puppy! Mine is just 9 weeks - there's hope!

I also think the Samurai was - well, the cool class. Ok, at least, I thought so. They were the 'selfish dps,' like the BLM. (*So powerful I don't HAVE to buff you peons!*) And I personally thought Kaiten was the ability that made it look that way - sleek and methodical and actually pretty wonderful. On a dragoon, I'm leaping (generally backwards, off the edge of something...) On the Reaper, I look insane. On the monk, I'm spinning upside down, like an angry potato with a HUGE kick range, and on the Ninja - I mean, I jump on a frog for no logical reason. They're just not *cool.* I like them, but it's not the same. Samurai was the only class I played on her where it actually looks like she was thinking ahead. (I mean, she wasn't, and neither am I, but it LOOKED that way.)

So - maybe that makes weird, insecure people fidgety & trollish? I assume they'd swoop in & whine at BLMs if they had some awful nerf/evisceration, too.

Pretty sure you jump on a frog because of Naruto lol. Ninja animations over the years seem to be heavily influenced by that show.

[Ruminous]

Pretty sure you jump on a frog because of Naruto lol. Ninja animations over the years seem to be heavily influenced by that show.

Pretty sure a Naruto character does fleeting raiju too, or it's like a common thing? Ninja run as well? It's all so anime.