SAM players are quitting

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Then you also know that by reading skills purely alone, it doesn't do justice as to what you can or cannot do in every single given situation on every single job in every single fight.

Yes. I know this because I play a variety of jobs in end game content, but I have time limits and energy constraints, let alone desires to play games other than FF14. Most of the examples you provide have less to do with Kaiten, isntead centered on whether or not you're using Iaijutsu, in which case, the use of Kaiten is a foregone conclusion.

Do you understand why that is different?

There is a valid argument for Sword Draw against a standard GCD for safety vs calculation. <=== This is the choice.

If you chose Sword Draw, you're using Kaiten. <==== This is not a choice.

It's also important to note I am not saying it's easy doing it. I am not diminishing your accomplishments. Imagine a Machinist telling someone else their job is easy. I also don't think I'd paint myself as an advocate for its removal. I'm very much against removing things without receiving anything for them, but I also think it's important to look at what the absence reveals to us, and use that to direct what we should ask for.

To me, the removal of Kaiten confirmed what Tsubame Gaeshi started for me, in that Samurai is actually uninteresting in its current path. Kaiten coming back will not change that for me.

But hey, you're right. I'm far less affected than others. So for what it's worth, I hope you can look forward to 6.2 for its potential return. Just beware that I doubt you'll get it back in its original form.

A whole lotta good stuff

See, it's people like you that keep me coming back here.

This whole wall is full of good stuff, and my only regret is that it'll soon be buried.