SAM players are quitting

[CelestiCer]

You have enough general play experience to look at a skill, how it's intended to be used, and make an assumption on it.
This is because the difference between the various jobs are not so steep that it prevents experience from one can quite easily translate to another.

Then you also know that by reading skills purely alone, it doesn't do justice as to what you can or cannot do in every single given situation on every single job in every single fight.

While jobs might not vary in steepness, I don't see the logic in advocating making it even more stale by removing any ounce of depth that many hold dear. The benefits or the enjoyment loss you suffer? from Kaiten Removal is so "Non-Existing", that defending it's removal? means so little, what is the argument point at that point for us not having it back when it means so much to Samurai mains.

This... notion of " Choice-less " to invalidate Kenki-management? The only way I can understand this if players view FFXIV's job rotations to be pre-destined, played like a perfectly scripted accordion for every fight. You cast Kaiten exactly at x time at x fight at x situation regardless of what happens? I mean I guess? but at that point doesn't that invalidate every bar, every gauge, every resource and even every cast anyone casts? If players perfectly adhere to a scripted list of skills they cast? <- Cause this is about the only way I can see that argument of there being no management of practically anything, then I agree yes.

But not everyone casts everything the same, not everyone performs the same... and that makes Kenki or any resource from any job fluctuate -> creating " Choice ". That choice to press different buttons that costs kenki? yes that's your choice to " Manage ". To knowingly cast Gekko and Kasha to generate enough for Kaiten + Midare and not trigger finger the Kenki away with Shinten yes that's a choice. To cast Kaiten and Ogi Namikiri and knowing you have enough cast time to do it as you move out of harms way or knowing you don't to delay it and not overcap your Kenki and use Shinten to manage it, that's a choice.

I don't even feel like I need to explain this... I genuinely believe I don't, not with you... but with plenty apparently I do... cause the only meme argument point they have is to invalidate all of these experiences that has become muscle memory for plenty of us into just " It's a button you press everytime "