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    CelestiCer's Avatar
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    Apr 2022
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    6.08 Hissatsu: Kaiten Give it back !!! obviously, mhm.
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    Celesti Cer
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FrogBiscuit View Post
    Oh, 100% :P

    I personally have gotten over the toxicity and at this point just interpret it as unconscious support for our issue.

    But I have to admit its hard to stop myself from pointing out how a post directly contradicts reality...
    For me it's these frequent obvious troll posters, who clearly don't play Samurai nor care for the job or the game for that matter. Spamming illogical points and arguments to invalidate feedback from creditable sources of experienced players with sometimes years of experiences. Good Experienced players aren't Gods, but generally a good insight equal to say someone proficient at a profession.

    Yet to disrespectfully act like they know a thing... like they are going to
    • a Doctor telling them they diagnosed it wrong
    • a Dentist telling them they don't know dental practices
    • a Carpenter telling them how to actually handle Plywood
    • a Chef, telling them how to actually braise meat
    • a Mathematician, telling them 1+1=4.5 and a half eaten apple
    Entitled opinions? fine... but without any experience to back anything up they said, with clear history that they indeed have no experiences... it just makes it look so damn dumb. That's what I find toxic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    All of this combined is frankly why the Kenki management argument kind of falls short - Because the Priority the player is taught compared to the priority we now have isn't really all that different.
    Like this person, probably a decent player. SAM Main? probably not. Trying to invalidate what people find fun/intrigued/depth purely by reading our skills. Having to always have 20 Kenki for your major hits sounds quite easy on paper, Yes and numerous people keep saying that... " On Paper ".

    In practice you will mess up, the punishment. Doing it right is the Reward, hence " Kenki Management ". Kaiten now removed means no punishment no reward no management. Plus not every fight is the same where Kaiten perfectly fits every fight at every moment. A good example for me is P3S where I try to figure out if I can slidecast Midare and fitting Kaiten after Brand... and it feels amazing to dodge that explosion. There are countless moments like these where Kaiten barely fits and yet we manage to pull it off. This is now gone, less depth, brainless, zero management.

    That's like me saying Reassemble should just be a passive. Am I talking out of my ass for saying that? Yes cause I don't play nor do I know anything about Machinist. And even if I read on paper what the skillkit of a job does, I have no experience with it.

    Non-Samurai mains judging how it means nothing... and to manage nothing... on paper... if players genuine argument point to defend Kaiten removal meaning So Little, if it meant So Little to so many who don't main SAM? what is the big deal then to not have it return if it meant " So Little " to them when it meant " So much to others " ?
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    Last edited by CelestiCer; 05-09-2022 at 02:44 AM.