Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
Is that really such a big ask? If it is, I do apologize. I do not intend to be disparaging, just wish to have a discussion. I want to understand your point of view.
The big big issue with the players like this comes from the term theory of mind, something most struggle with.

Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
I personally feel that games are for fun, and I don't mind taking time to savor my fun. If I viewed this game as a miserable chore that had to be rushed through, I would just find something fun to do instead.
For them going slow and steady is fun. Because it is fun for them it should be fun for all. This is where theory of mind assists. Fun is a spectrum a concept most subjective with much variance across all. So many attribute effort with not having fun because they also view video games as toys for the children. Therefor they struggle to make next logical connection that the rest of the party may find going zoom fun.