Off Topic Discussion Megathread

[Kolsykol]

Bit off topic I guess but this goes for other MMO's too.
The most frustrating part about Savage to me is how I have a lot more '' stamina '' than basically everyone else it feels like xD.
If I am free I can basically just go at it the entire day to get the kill in one day.

But basically what happens is you spend time putting a group together, prog some mechanics then people have to go you're lucky if it lasts an hour.
Rinse and repeat.
I mean I can't force people to play obviously, but I just wish it was faster and you could gogogogo for as long as *you* want.
I look in PF and meh no practice groups just clear and putting together one fairly late takes a lot of time.

It's just one of the weaknesses of MMO's imo.
I love Savage I am having a lot of fun regardless of my horrible P3S experience, and P4S isn't nearly as bad as I thought it'd be at least not phase 1 I just blitzed through it and gonna try phase 2 tomorrow.
But it feels sorta deflating when it ends and you have no more groups to join, it's like you hit a wall.
When I take on a challenge I just like to keep going at it until it's done.

I remember it was the same in WoW when I was 16-18 and was in a Guild with someone I knew and his classmates.
We had raid nights but they only really wanted to go at it for like 1-2 hours or so, I wanted to go at it until it was done or at least for quite a lot longer.
It just kinda felt bad to kill one or two bosses and then call it a day, and it's not like they had anything else going either I'd see them play other games instead as soon as they logged.
I've noticed this with statics I fill in for sometimes in FFXIV too, they do maybe 3-5 pulls or so and then it's over.

Edit: Ofc I can understand if it isn't working.
I am mainly talking about groups where you actually are progressing and people are learning and you are seeing new mechanics.
It feels like such a waste when people give up or just cba to go anymore and you haven't even been there very long.

[Dreamsoap]

Bit off topic I guess but this goes for other MMO's too.
The most frustrating part about Savage to me is how I have a lot more '' stamina '' than basically everyone else it feels like xD.
If I am free I can basically just go at it the entire day to get the kill in one day.

But basically what happens is you spend time putting a group together, prog some mechanics then people have to go you're lucky if it lasts an hour.
Rinse and repeat.
I mean I can't force people to play obviously, but I just wish it was faster and you could gogogogo for as long as *you* want.
I look in PF and meh no practice groups just clear and putting together one fairly late takes a lot of time.

It's just one of the weaknesses of MMO's imo.
I love Savage I am having a lot of fun regardless of my horrible P3S experience, and P4S isn't nearly as bad as I thought it'd be at least not phase 1 I just blitzed through it and gonna try phase 2 tomorrow.
But it feels sorta deflating when it ends and you have no more groups to join, it's like you hit a wall.
When I take on a challenge I just like to keep going at it until it's done.

I remember it was the same in WoW when I was 16-18 and was in a Guild with someone I knew and his classmates.
We had raid nights but they only really wanted to go at it for like 1-2 hours or so, I wanted to go at it until it was done or at least for quite a lot longer.
It just kinda felt bad to kill one or two bosses and then call it a day, and it's not like they had anything else going either I'd see them play other games instead as soon as they logged.
I've noticed this with statics I fill in for sometimes in FFXIV too, they do maybe 3-5 pulls or so and then it's over.

Edit: Ofc I can understand if it isn't working.
I am mainly talking about groups where you actually are progressing and people are learning and you are seeing new mechanics.
It feels like such a waste when people give up or just cba to go anymore and you haven't even been there very long.

This is why I've mostly stuck to statics, because of the consistency. But yeah anytime I wanna prog any older savages/ EXs that come out or w/e, it's annoying as hell when you just wanna no life it but your groups keep disbanding and you spend more time waiting for fills than doing anything productive. Like cool we learned the very 1st mechanic, time to calll it a day.
I just stuck to doing extra prog (non clears) in PF outside of static hours to see more, and help make the few hours we spend on prog more productive. I think next tier I'll use an alt for doing the tier through PF though.

[SturmChurro]

Bit off topic I guess but this goes for other MMO's too.
The most frustrating part about Savage to me is how I have a lot more '' stamina '' than basically everyone else it feels like xD.
If I am free I can basically just go at it the entire day to get the kill in one day.

I can usually do the same thing, if I intend on doing something I will try until I get it, but this also typically leads to burn out for me. That's the catch. It can get really bad with pugs too, if they are the reason you are being held back, and wasting your time.. but then I am too flaky to ever want to join a static or guild. When I want to do something, I want to do something, but when I don't it feels exhausting. Like dragging myself through it. I will do it anyway, as an obligation, but it completely ruins the enjoyment, and feels like a chore.

A lot of the time I'd rather not bother. It's like with the current extremes, I got the mount for hydaelyn. I did it dozens upon dozens of times until I got it, but I didn't do the same for the second, because I was already burned out at that point. In Bozja, I did the content there over and over and over and over until I got what I wanted the most (or didn't get) and due to burnout quit for a large portion of 2021.