Summoner feels really, really dumbed down now

[Myon88]

If my visually more appealing, you mean flash banging my face on P3S and kill myself because I couldn't see any mechanic... then yeah :\ It is great but I just have to tune it down in raid. Imagine summon Titan/Ifrit in P3S. Everything is red and orange.

SMN was designed for casual players, not raiders. I feel that's where they messed up.

Lets play a game, it's called "You have two seconds to tell me what colour these orbs are".

[BaconBits]

Trick question, there are no orbs, only Teedus.

[Aikaal]

There's no beating around the bush, there are extremely capable casual players and some of them surely played old SMN effectively, so new SMN must have been created for a hypothetical low denominator player, and if that wasn't their intention then they screwed up more grievously. Just designing an "easy going" job doesn't demand you leave all nuance behind.

If I tell you I have a cousin who says SMN is too complicated / more complicated than GNB, would you believe me? I see the current SMN as a girl who gets really pretty and photoshopped her picture to look absolutely stunning but when you go and meet her, you realized you were lied.

By the way, I actually have a cousin that thinks this way and yes, her summoner underperforms drastically.

Lets play a game, it's called "You have two seconds to tell me what colour these orbs are".

BEAUTIFUL

[Shuuli]

Lets play a game, it's called "You have two seconds to tell me what colour these orbs are".

This... 100% describes my experience on why i LOVE P2S I CAN SEE in it.
P1S, P3S, is absolute face on the screen, eyes out of your skull to be able to see xD. My eyes legit feel tired after P3S runs. I needed to change most of my settings on visuals to be able to run this raid. Maybe I am just old. I already have bad eyesight, this aint helps for sure.

I always say this. New summoner looks really fancy, I really like the "cool" aspect of it. But you must tune down those pretty effects or you really will not see anything in some of the fights... so then whats the point of it being pretty if I cannot see it?