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1. Okay great, I'm playing a melee and I just sit at wall spamming my ranged attack until I know its SUPER SAFE then I use my buffs willy nilly and clip all my gcd's during burst windows. See how ridiculous that sounds?

I don't know why the idea that playing optimally = greedy is so common, its really asinine. Playing optimally just means that you don't completely waste your damage by doing very basic things such as buff alignment and proper GCD usage. If every player sandbagged to do mechanics, nothing high end in the game would be clearable until an egregious gear creep occured. To do high-end content while it is relevant, you need to be able to do both mechanics and decent damage, end of story.


2. How can there be an in-game tutor if the devs themselves have no idea what that optimal rotation is? A parser isn't inherently a toxic or malicious tool, it just displays data from the combat log visually.

And no, you don't need Discord for Extreme or Savages, a lot of players clear these through PF. Which is where the frustration comes from.

Normal raids and Alliance raids have DPS checks, hell even some dungeons have DPS checks. Its just apart of the game. And I've seen failure in all three. The problem isn't that its impossible to overcome terrible dps, the problem is that it happens at all for a very dumb reason. If the XIV commnuity really is one public meter away from becoming a cesspool, then it wasn't a very nice community to begin with and I think most people on this game need a reality check.


3. Everytime this topic comes up you guys like to project onto people who care about performance. If you don't care about how you perform when grouped with others, you aren't a casual, you're just negligent and selfish. I know people who play this game for < 8 hours a week that still asked me for help with practicing a basic rotation because they didn't want to be a drag on the group. The implication that someone can't both relax and enjoy the game AND perform at least on an acceptable level is asinine and makes you look really goofy.

If you are going to queue for group content that involves other random people and they're spending time to get the dungeon done, there is and should be an expectation to pull your weight and participate in an appropriate manner. That isn't hardcore or toxic, its just called being polite. If you fail to do this, you should be called out for it because anyone can meet this standard by just taking 10 minutes to think about their play.

The suggestion that someone can join a dungeon and just single-target/auto-attack their way through the entire thing, and that they're entitled to do so at the expense of three other people is quite frankly stupid as hell. If everyone played like that, things would be miserable. If you want to play like that, find three or seven other people to consent to that playstyle and leave the rest of us alone.