So this game has dps checks but we can't talk about our dps in game?

[ForteNightshade]

Pro tip: If you're inspecting the floor, you're playing bad. If you get vulnerability stacks, you're playing bad. Maximizing DPS is at the bottom of your priorities. You can't DPS if you're dead. Your healers can't DPS if they're constantly scrambling to keep you alive.

This... isn't true whatsoever. Vulnerability stacks became so laughable due to the lackluster amount of healing they had to change them to damage downs. In fact, it was JP PF that finally triggered that. Yes, even the hyper safety gamer JP pugs opted for uptime Soccer strat in E6S, which is what finally made the dev team realize nobody cared. Look at Zodiark. Melee and tanks collect vuln stacks for uptime because... why not? He barely does any damage. Obviously, Melee can't get away with eating everything the way tanks can but the point remains vulns weren't threatening. Hence why they were changed.

You're misunderstanding the source of the shock. The shock happens when someone who is playing a video game to relax and have fun encounters someone who is playing a video game as a substitute for IRL employment/achievements. No one expects a random player to suddenly start channeling their supervisor from work, and they certainly don't enjoy it. You don't have to tell anyone that they're playing wrong. More often than not, they know, and they don't care. If they cared about your opinion or wanted your tips, they would ask for it. If they ask, feel free to constructively pipe up. Better yet, if you want to educate players, create guides and post them on YouTube, Reddit, and/or Discord. The players who care will seek them out and thank you for it. There's no need to shock anyone.

Which is fine... within reason. Nobody is expecting top tier performance in every piece of content. Where this becomes a problem is when those same players are doing the absolute bare minimum yet still expecting the same results. Why should I put in extra work even in a dungeon so the healer can Nexflix and chill? Likewise, in Savage, why should the DPS have to push harder to compensate for tanks and/or healers who can't be bothered to push their buttons?

I get simply wanting to chill. But then do that with other people who have the same mindset. Don't queue into DF or join PF then get upset when someone else isn't thrilled they're having to do more work because you're lazy. They have every right to call you out for being selfish.

[Packetdancer]

This... isn't true whatsoever. Vulnerability stacks became so laughable due to the lackluster amount of healing they had to change them to damage downs.

I mean, there was also the fact that in the cases where vuln stacks did make a significant difference, all it was doing was offloading the punishment for someone's mistakes onto the healer. If failing a mechanic didn't affect someone's DPS output (indeed, if failing the mechanic could increase their damage output -- as with uptime soccer), they didn't care. And I certainly saw some people who figured "If I have seven vuln stacks, that just means I'm really good at keeping uptime and it has no other effect!"

Meanwhile, as a healer main, my opinion on vuln stacks was "They're generally not a problem if you have one or two. But if they reach a point where I have to start spending any significant effort to counter the increasing number of vulns you have, it will be less hassle for me in the long run -- both in terms of GCDs spent on you and in terms of my general healing resource budget -- to just use the Nuclear Esuna and cleanse those vuln stacks by letting you die and then rezzing you."