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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    The flaw with this argument is that the developers have stated that external voice chat programs are not prohibited. They have also said that using utilities that interact with the game (and analyzing game data) are prohibited. You can do you, but let's not use a logical fallacy to push a point.



    That's a bit ambiguous. What are some other hurdles that would be introduced? The worst case scenario I can see is they take the player along on some runs, using those outings to decide whether they're a fit for their static or not, and then declining them membership on the team. How exactly is that a greater evil?
    Watch you DPS down a training dummy and time you compared to what the going average is, above average, and best are doing.

    EDIT: People will find a way to measure each other. Plenty of casual groups out there that just want x role filled and don't really care about performance. Nothing wrong with those groups either but making other groups lives harder just because they have a filter for their groups, doesn't change how groups who don't are about performance are going to operate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamr3 View Post
    Watch you DPS down a training dummy and time you compared to what the going average is, above average, and best are doing.
    And that would be fine. The player was given a chance at that point and then it's on them to prove themselves. But the difference is they didn't have to break the terms of service (or ask someone else to) to do it. And in your example we have players actually interacting instead of immediately shutting doors on one one another because of a third-party tool that exists outside of the game. That sounds like an improvement to me.
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    I mean, technically, it's not against the TOS. They've reiterated their stance on Parses. For self-improvement only and not being used in a way to ruin another person's gameplay, it's fine as it is now. I mean, how is it any different than building up a resume for your job? You work at other places to build your resume to then give yourself a shot.

    There's no "improvement" in making filtering people for your group more tedious. If asking you to join a public run on your own time and spend an hour to get some verifiable experience done is too much, you're probably looking to join the wrong groups.
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