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    Interesting, but I'd like to point out that although your fight specific logs show that the RPR indeed out heals the tanks, that it is not a true metric when compared to overall tanks vs overall RPR.

    This shows tanks out healing RPRs by roughly 1k on average
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/rankings...anks&boss=1059

    If you're going to point out that WARs are just broken right now, here are PLD also out healing RPRs.
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/rankings...9&spec=Paladin

    Granted, GNB and DRK average around 900~1k.

    But if you compare RPR with other DPS, notably DNC, it certainly does look like Crest is overtuned. I suspect either DNC will get a buff or RPR will see a slight nerf, probably 100 -> 50 potency if I had to guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_Haas View Post
    Interesting, but I'd like to point out that although your fight specific logs show that the RPR indeed out heals the tanks, that it is not a true metric when compared to overall tanks vs overall RPR.

    This shows tanks out healing RPRs by roughly 1k on average
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/rankings...anks&boss=1059

    If you're going to point out that WARs are just broken right now, here are PLD also out healing RPRs.
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/rankings...9&spec=Paladin

    Granted, GNB and DRK average around 900~1k.

    But if you compare RPR with other DPS, notably DNC, it certainly does look like Crest is overtuned. I suspect either DNC will get a buff or RPR will see a slight nerf, probably 100 -> 50 potency if I had to guess.
    Reaper deserves a nerf much bigger than that is crest is untouched, it should be under every other single melee in rDPS.
    Even if crest if halved, they need to be under every other melee dps along with monk.
    The only way to balance something that broken and keep reaper up there in damage is to make crest a personal defensive that has zero interactions with healing the raid.
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    Last edited by ZiraZ; 12-29-2021 at 06:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    Reaper deserves a nerf much bigger than that is crest is untouched, it should be under every other single melee in rDPS.
    Even if crest if halved, they need to be under every other melee dps along with monk.
    The only way to balance something that broken and keep reaper up there in damage is to make crest a personal defensive that has zero interactions with healing the raid.
    I'm obviously not outlining the full list of changes... Could you pin your strawman somewhere else please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_Haas View Post
    I'm obviously not outlining the full list of changes... Could you pin your strawman somewhere else please?
    Is it a strawman? you're the one here saying with a straight face that reaper is fine because it's all about playstyles and if you want to pretend to be a ninja like in your animes it's fine even if it's severely underperforming
    so yeah I fully expect your full list of changes to be just a tiny slap on the wrist instead of the proper full array of nerfs it deserves
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_Haas View Post
    Interesting, but I'd like to point out that although your fight specific logs show that the RPR indeed out heals the tanks, that it is not a true metric when compared to overall tanks vs overall RPR.

    This shows tanks out healing RPRs by roughly 1k on average
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/rankings...anks&boss=1059

    If you're going to point out that WARs are just broken right now, here are PLD also out healing RPRs.
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/rankings...9&spec=Paladin

    Granted, GNB and DRK average around 900~1k.

    But if you compare RPR with other DPS, notably DNC, it certainly does look like Crest is overtuned. I suspect either DNC will get a buff or RPR will see a slight nerf, probably 100 -> 50 potency if I had to guess.
    Idk man, yeah some tanks out heal them, and dnc on some fights i guess? But dnc is an utility focused job which is quite literally dead last on the meters, try and compare it to the other melees : only monk has a similar skill, and mantra is much worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuoll View Post
    Idk man, yeah some tanks out heal them, and dnc on some fights i guess? But dnc is an utility focused job which is quite literally dead last on the meters, try and compare it to the other melees : only monk has a similar skill, and mantra is much worse.
    I just want to avoid misrepresentation of facts.
    I'm not above changing my mind, but I want to see the full picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_Haas View Post
    I suspect either DNC will get a buff or RPR will see a slight nerf, probably 100 -> 50 potency if I had to guess.
    Seems I was right.
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