Requesting Information on Jobs: Preparing for 1.21

[Jinrya-Geki]

Show me in that video where you see Black Mage granting more damage to spells. Don't count Ancient magic spell with a 15 minute recast. Where is the MP cut to spells, nowhere they still cost the same damn amount.

Looks like the same damn amount. Now this makes me even more nervous. Cause in some situations Cjn can do the same amount of damage as Thaumturge. So if jobs don't help make a different in damage that means white mage can do equal damage to Black Mage, isn't this fantastic?

Example fight Ama'jaal spamming Aerora/Stonra.

Great the healer role, can beat the damager role in some situations, this should never happen with black mage and white mage. I put up with it when it comes to Cjn and Thm, because they aren't specifically healer or DD roles they can be either.

[Starlord]

Show me in that video where you see Black Mage granting more damage to spells. Don't count Ancient magic spell with a 15 minute recast. Where is the MP cut to spells, nowhere they still cost the same damn amount.

Looks like the same damn amount. Now this makes me even more nervous. Cause in some situations Cjn can do the same amount of damage as Thaumturge. So if jobs don't help make a different in damage that means white mage can do equal damage to Black Mage, isn't this fantastic?

Example fight Ama'jaal spamming Aerora/Stonra.

Great the healer role, can beat the damager role in some situations, this should never happen with black mage and white mage. I put up with it when it comes to Cjn and Thm, because they aren't specifically healer or DD roles they can be either.

This is why Videos/Information is stupid with this community.. always take things out of proportion before you actually "try" it.. I'm sure things are all different...

Just having the Ability to Cross-class alone.. makes this game way over powering.. I hope they ditch the class system eventually... being Cross-classing is really stupid.. and makes everything too easy :/

[darkstarpoet1]

This is why Videos/Information is stupid with this community.. always take things out of proportion before you actually "try" it.. I'm sure things are all different...

Just having the Ability to Cross-class alone.. makes this game way over powering.. I hope they ditch the class system eventually... being Cross-classing is really stupid.. and makes everything too easy :/

cross-classing the classes is one of the things i actually really enjoyed about this game.

[Starlord]

cross-classing the classes is one of the things i actually really enjoyed about this game.

Then you can still do that... just don't be any of the jobs.. you will be disappointed.. I tell you that.. Jobs.. NEVER cross-class.. they are lock with the role they are "Lancer/DRG" nothing else etc etc... Jobs are Specialized not Freelancing.

- Want to Cross-class.. stay as the class you are now
- Want Specialized Jobs to make your Job more defined? Get the jobs and Abilities for it.

This is how FF jobs have always been.. if you expect 1.21 to have Cross-classing... then you will be sadly disappointed...

Note:

-Classes( Freelancers) will always be stronger in nature of the Diversity to be able to combined things for every class.
-Jobs( Specialized in the 1 Role they are Given) Don't have the Luxury of Classes of combining abilities together, however, the job they are assigned to gets more classified abilities which makes them stronger in said job.

^ this always is FF games in General this is the FF3 route.. Its either you stay Freelancin' or Do jobs.. both will be in the game... but you make the choice which one you want to do

[darkstarpoet1]

Then you can still do that... just don't be any of the jobs.. you will be disappointed.. I tell you that.. Jobs.. NEVER cross-class.. they are lock with the role they are "Lancer/DRG" nothing else etc etc... Jobs are Specialized not Freelancing.

- Want to Cross-class.. stay as the class you are now
- Want Specialized Jobs to make your Job more defined? Get the jobs and Abilities for it.

This is how FF jobs have always been.. if you expect 1.21 to have Cross-classing... then you will be sadly disappointed...

Note:

-Classes( Freelancers) will always be stronger in nature of the Diversity to be able to combined things for every class.
-Jobs( Specialized in the 1 Role they are Given) Don't have the Luxury of Classes of combining abilities together, however, the job they are assigned to gets more classified abilities which makes them stronger in said class.

^ this always is FF games in General this is the FF3 route.. Its either you stay Freelancin' or Do jobs.. both will be in the game... but you make the choice which one you want to do

i'll say this if jobs come out and have zero cross classing at all feel free to come call me out on it. i'll be the first to say that i'm sure there will be cross classing of some sort in them. i don't think it will be extent it is now much less what it was originally, but i seriously doubt there is none.

[Starlord]

i'll say this if jobs come out and have zero cross classing at all feel free to come call me out on it. i'll be the first to say that i'm sure there will be cross classing of some sort in them. i don't think it will be extent it is now much less what it was originally, but i seriously doubt there is none.

They will be able to cross class/job per say with there on class: e.g. Lacner abl will be able to attack with DRG stuff.. but can't cross-class with any other class to DRG.

I'm just explaining the Terms and what they mean since people are having problems digesting the fact that they wont be able to cross-class with jobs :/ lol

[darkstarpoet1]

They will be able to cross class/job per say with there on class: e.g. Lacner abl will be able to attack with DRG stuff.. but can't cross-class with any other class to DRG.

I'm just explaining the Terms and what they mean since people are having problems digesting the fact that they wont be able to cross-class with jobs :/ lol

that's not what has been stated by any dev members. what has been said is it would be further limited. i'll be suprised if, pld for example, cannot take the skills from mrd that makes them a better tank since that is what pld is designed for.

at no point in time have they stated once that a job would not be able to use any skill from any other class at all. what was stated is that cross classing would be limited. limits can be anything from they can't cross any skills to only certain skills that are already cross classed.

edit: i'm not saying you are wrong, but i am saying there's different amounts of limits and they vary greatly. they could be saying that instead of 10 cross class skills you have on the class you only have 5 on a job since the job abilities already take up 5 spots. going from 10 skills to 5 is limiting. i'm not saying that's what it will be, but just using that as an example since it is still limiting cross classing which is what they stated it would be.

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This is why Videos/Information is stupid with this community.. always take things out of proportion before you actually "try" it.. I'm sure things are all different...

Just having the Ability to Cross-class alone.. makes this game way over powering.. I hope they ditch the class system eventually... being Cross-classing is really stupid.. and makes everything too easy :/

No. Just no.

[Colino]

No. Just no.

Yeah that's what I tell myself 99% of the time I read something as stupid as that... : /

[Answa]

Show me in that video where you see Black Mage granting more damage to spells. Don't count Ancient magic spell with a 15 minute recast. Where is the MP cut to spells, nowhere they still cost the same damn amount.

Looks like the same damn amount. Now this makes me even more nervous. Cause in some situations Cjn can do the same amount of damage as Thaumturge. So if jobs don't help make a different in damage that means white mage can do equal damage to Black Mage, isn't this fantastic?

Example fight Ama'jaal spamming Aerora/Stonra.

Great the healer role, can beat the damager role in some situations, this should never happen with black mage and white mage. I put up with it when it comes to Cjn and Thm, because they aren't specifically healer or DD roles they can be either.

And then you use that nice little convert on THM--owait