Requesting Information on Jobs: Preparing for 1.21

**Jinrya-Geki** · 03-04-2012 08:06 AM

Show me in that video where you see Black Mage granting more damage to spells. Don't count Ancient magic spell with a 15 minute recast. Where is the MP cut to spells, nowhere they still cost the same damn amount.

Looks like the same damn amount. Now this makes me even more nervous. Cause in some situations Cjn can do the same amount of damage as Thaumturge. So if jobs don't help make a different in damage that means white mage can do equal damage to Black Mage, isn't this fantastic?

Example fight Ama'jaal spamming Aerora/Stonra.

Great the healer role, can beat the damager role in some situations, this should never happen with black mage and white mage. I put up with it when it comes to Cjn and Thm, because they aren't specifically healer or DD roles they can be either.

**Starlord** · 03-04-2012 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Show me in that video where you see Black Mage granting more damage to spells. Don't count Ancient magic spell with a 15 minute recast. Where is the MP cut to spells, nowhere they still cost the same damn amount.

Looks like the same damn amount. Now this makes me even more nervous. Cause in some situations Cjn can do the same amount of damage as Thaumturge. So if jobs don't help make a different in damage that means white mage can do equal damage to Black Mage, isn't this fantastic?

Example fight Ama'jaal spamming Aerora/Stonra.

Great the healer role, can beat the damager role in some situations, this should never happen with black mage and white mage. I put up with it when it comes to Cjn and Thm, because they aren't specifically healer or DD roles they can be either.

This is why Videos/Information is stupid with this community.. always take things out of proportion before you actually "try" it.. I'm sure things are all different...

Just having the Ability to Cross-class alone.. makes this game way over powering.. I hope they ditch the class system eventually... being Cross-classing is really stupid.. and makes everything too easy :/

**darkstarpoet1** · 03-04-2012 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by Starlord

This is why Videos/Information is stupid with this community.. always take things out of proportion before you actually "try" it.. I'm sure things are all different...

Just having the Ability to Cross-class alone.. makes this game way over powering.. I hope they ditch the class system eventually... being Cross-classing is really stupid.. and makes everything too easy :/

cross-classing the classes is one of the things i actually really enjoyed about this game.

**Starlord** · 03-04-2012 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

cross-classing the classes is one of the things i actually really enjoyed about this game.

Then you can still do that... just don't be any of the jobs.. you will be disappointed.. I tell you that.. Jobs.. NEVER cross-class.. they are lock with the role they are "Lancer/DRG" nothing else etc etc... Jobs are Specialized not Freelancing.

- Want to Cross-class.. stay as the class you are now
- Want Specialized Jobs to make your Job more defined? Get the jobs and Abilities for it.

This is how FF jobs have always been.. if you expect 1.21 to have Cross-classing... then you will be sadly disappointed...

Note:

-Classes( Freelancers) will always be stronger in nature of the Diversity to be able to combined things for every class.
-Jobs( Specialized in the 1 Role they are Given) Don't have the Luxury of Classes of combining abilities together, however, the job they are assigned to gets more classified abilities which makes them stronger in said job.

^ this always is FF games in General this is the FF3 route.. Its either you stay Freelancin' or Do jobs.. both will be in the game... but you make the choice which one you want to do

**darkstarpoet1** · 03-04-2012 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Starlord

Then you can still do that... just don't be any of the jobs.. you will be disappointed.. I tell you that.. Jobs.. NEVER cross-class.. they are lock with the role they are "Lancer/DRG" nothing else etc etc... Jobs are Specialized not Freelancing.

- Want to Cross-class.. stay as the class you are now
- Want Specialized Jobs to make your Job more defined? Get the jobs and Abilities for it.

This is how FF jobs have always been.. if you expect 1.21 to have Cross-classing... then you will be sadly disappointed...

Note:

-Classes( Freelancers) will always be stronger in nature of the Diversity to be able to combined things for every class.
-Jobs( Specialized in the 1 Role they are Given) Don't have the Luxury of Classes of combining abilities together, however, the job they are assigned to gets more classified abilities which makes them stronger in said class.

^ this always is FF games in General this is the FF3 route.. Its either you stay Freelancin' or Do jobs.. both will be in the game... but you make the choice which one you want to do

i'll say this if jobs come out and have zero cross classing at all feel free to come call me out on it. i'll be the first to say that i'm sure there will be cross classing of some sort in them. i don't think it will be extent it is now much less what it was originally, but i seriously doubt there is none.

**illriginalized** · 03-05-2012 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Starlord

This is why Videos/Information is stupid with this community.. always take things out of proportion before you actually "try" it.. I'm sure things are all different...

Just having the Ability to Cross-class alone.. makes this game way over powering.. I hope they ditch the class system eventually... being Cross-classing is really stupid.. and makes everything too easy :/

No. Just no.

**Colino** · 03-05-2012 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by illriginalized

No. Just no.

Yeah that's what I tell myself 99% of the time I read something as stupid as that... : /

**Answa** · 03-04-2012 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Show me in that video where you see Black Mage granting more damage to spells. Don't count Ancient magic spell with a 15 minute recast. Where is the MP cut to spells, nowhere they still cost the same damn amount.

Looks like the same damn amount. Now this makes me even more nervous. Cause in some situations Cjn can do the same amount of damage as Thaumturge. So if jobs don't help make a different in damage that means white mage can do equal damage to Black Mage, isn't this fantastic?

Example fight Ama'jaal spamming Aerora/Stonra.

Great the healer role, can beat the damager role in some situations, this should never happen with black mage and white mage. I put up with it when it comes to Cjn and Thm, because they aren't specifically healer or DD roles they can be either.

And then you use that nice little convert on THM--owait

**Inaaca** · 03-04-2012 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Show me in that video where you see Black Mage granting more damage to spells. Don't count Ancient magic spell with a 15 minute recast. Where is the MP cut to spells, nowhere they still cost the same damn amount.

Looks like the same damn amount. Now this makes me even more nervous. Cause in some situations Cjn can do the same amount of damage as Thaumturge. So if jobs don't help make a different in damage that means white mage can do equal damage to Black Mage, isn't this fantastic?

Example fight Ama'jaal spamming Aerora/Stonra.

Great the healer role, can beat the damager role in some situations, this should never happen with black mage and white mage. I put up with it when it comes to Cjn and Thm, because they aren't specifically healer or DD roles they can be either.

The Convert ability for BLM alone will undoubtedly make a huge impact on their ability to cast more spells. More spells equals more damage, and Convert also goes toward alleviating the MP cost issue. And this is only taking into consideration ONE of the new abilities that BLM is getting.

So yeah, let's wait and see how things work before we call the whole system bunk, heh.

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