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  1. #191
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    Floortank's Avatar
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    Kaska Onerys
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    The quest did it's job. It made people feel angry/despair and hopeless.
    I liked it, but I got something else entirely from it.

    First fight, with the very first guy, I nearly died.

    My first response: Holy shit, my character is so much more powerful than your average fighter/soldier in this game. This is what it's like to be a regular person. This is what it's like to not be the Warrior of Light.

    After I realized that, other things fell into place. My HP is not restoring itself, so I need to use medkits. Each fight might be my death, so I need to sneak around mobs, or run from battle and hope they rubberband. In the course of doing these things, I gathered many supplies. I had maybe 5 or 6 medkits before the next time I got forced to fight something.

    My second response: This guy would be totally screwed if I wasn't in control of his life right now. This guy would not survive any of these encounters, he'd be dead.

    That's when it clicked for me. I am the difference maker in every situation.

    We, the players, are an essential part of the Warrior of Light. Take away our character, with their powerful weapons, incredible magicks, powerful aether, and blessing of light, and shove us into the body of a hapless, merely vulnerable soldier, a ready-made victim, and yet we still rise to the challenge. We will drag ourselves through the dirt, hand over hand, to save our friends, our world.

    It is an incredible duty.
    (19)

  2. #192
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    Gameovers's Avatar
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    Server Malfunction
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    Zalera
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    I liked it, but I got something else entirely from it.

    First fight, with the very first guy, I nearly died.

    My first response: Holy shit, my character is so much more powerful than your average fighter/soldier in this game. This is what it's like to be a regular person. This is what it's like to not be the Warrior of Light.

    After I realized that, other things fell into place. My HP is not restoring itself, so I need to use medkits. Each fight might be my death, so I need to sneak around mobs, or run from battle and hope they rubberband. In the course of doing these things, I gathered many supplies. I had maybe 5 or 6 medkits before the next time I got forced to fight something.

    My second response: This guy would be totally screwed if I wasn't in control of his life right now. This guy would not survive any of these encounters, he'd be dead.

    That's when it clicked for me. I am the difference maker in every situation.

    We, the players, are an essential part of the Warrior of Light. Take away our character, with their powerful weapons, incredible magicks, powerful aether, and blessing of light, and shove us into the body of a hapless, merely vulnerable soldier, a ready-made victim, and yet we still rise to the challenge. We will drag ourselves through the dirt, hand over hand, to save our friends, our world.

    It is an incredible duty.
    I literally just told something like this to my friend on the phone. This duty shows the difference between our WoL in everyone else so good. You said it perfectly.
    (12)
    Hearing the crazys but I don't know why
    Seeing the maybes but I don't know who
    Hearing the crazys more and more
    Noone stop LIMSAS BEATS!

  3. #193
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    Xtro99's Avatar
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    Wesley Hardin
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Idk if i just lucked out with this one but i found it pretty straight forward compared to other scenarios. At least it has no surprise mechanics that kill you instantly without even giving you enough time to assort what just deleted your character (Naadam I see you)

    I think what helped me is that I thought i was going to fail it a few times the second I realized how weak the character you are given really is, so I paid no attention to the timer, took my sweet time to pick every heal I came across and avoided pretty much everything until the last stretch.
    (1)
    Last edited by Xtro99; 12-08-2021 at 02:44 PM.

  4. #194
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    CazzT's Avatar
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    Kyssa Shay
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Gameovers View Post
    I literally just told something like this to my friend on the phone. This duty shows the difference between our WoL in everyone else so good. You said it perfectly.
    I can see the difference between Kyssa and the rest of the rank and file enemies we deal with without being forced to play an extremely unfun duty.

    I don't like playing as Thancred, Alphinaud, Uriange, Yshtola, Bob, Jim, Ted, Alice, Gertrude, or anyone else. I want to play Kyssa, MY character. I don't find it fun to play another character that I didn't create. I don't care how creative the quest is if it forces me to play in a way that's not fun.
    (9)

  5. #195
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I haven't been playing non-stop and leveling up Sage and a little bit other classes so I just reached the quest. Was in the middle of it when maintenance hit and I hate the quest.

    While it can be good to play as other characters, when there is actual reason for it. That quest, there isn't. It feels like they're just forcing it on you for the sake of attempting to create tension, even though you know it'll all be solved in the end, and to give you a hard and annoying time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameovers View Post
    I literally just told something like this to my friend on the phone. This duty shows the difference between our WoL in everyone else so good. You said it perfectly.
    I don't think that really justifies it.
    The Scions don't have your fancy WoL powers, and they're able to keep up with you.
    There are Garleans like Lucia and Gaius who can't even use magic that can keep up with the WoL, even without Magitek.

    It's not a difference between the WoL and "regular people", it the difference between the WoL and a completely inexperienced person. A difference of your level 83 powers to a level 1.
    (5)
    Last edited by CaptainLagbeard; 12-08-2021 at 03:52 PM.

  6. #196
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    Miracle_Diva's Avatar
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    Burning Winter
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    Cerberus
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post

    I don't think that really justifies it.
    The Scions don't have your fancy WoL powers, and they're able to keep up with you.
    There are Garleans like Lucia and Gaius who can't even use magic that can keep up with the WoL, even without Magitek.
    But can they really keep up? We're the ones who's dealing with the hardest fights while Scions are out or busy with doing something else. Of course I'm not saying they don't deserve the praise for being always there for us and supporting us, but we and them are not on the same level.
    It's not a difference between the WoL and "regular people", it the difference between the WoL and a completely inexperienced person. A difference of your level 83 powers to a level 1.
    We've come a long way from level 1 to 83. We gained power. Also, in that mission we are operating a Garlean soldier. It's not an inexperienced person, well at least in my book.
    (3)
    Last edited by Miracle_Diva; 12-08-2021 at 04:38 PM.

  7. #197
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    But can they really keep up? We're the ones who's dealing with the hardest fights while Scions are out or busy with doing something else. Of course I'm not saying they don't deserve the praise for being always there for us and supporting us, but we and them are not on the same level.
    This. The Scions for the most part cannot keep up with us nor are on our level, and this becomes apparent if you do Trusts. Why they don't AoE, why they don't attack while moving, why they wait for an attack to go through before going back, why they have so few skills/spells/abilities, there's a reason other than a technical standpoint. Because they themselves are already pushing themselves to the limit fighting a single enemy, dodging attacks, and have a limited amount of moves that their bodies can use at any given situation because any more might push their bodies too much. Estinien and G'raha Tia are the only two Trusts who have actually been able to transcend their limits to a degree, through Estinien's temporary fusion with Nidhogg and G'raha Tia's century of knowledge and experience as the Exarch, and are actually closer to our level than the others.
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  8. #198
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    But can they really keep up? We're the ones who's dealing with the hardest fights while Scions are out or busy with doing something else. Of course I'm not saying they don't deserve the praise for being always there for us and supporting us, but we and them are not on the same level.

    We've come a long way from level 1 to 83. We gained power. Also, in that mission we are operating a Garlean soldier. It's not an inexperienced person, well at least in my book.
    It's not just about levels of powers. It's the whole quest.

    It comes out of nowhere and is just forced on you.
    The whole thing what I've seen of it is just bad. The writing is bad. The gameplay is bad. The execution of the quest is bad.

    I just want the maintenance to finish so I can go finish the quest and proceed to forget about this little filler arc until I have to do it again on another character, I would actually pay money for a 6.0 story skip to not have to do this quest again.
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  9. #199
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I quite liked this duty. It felt tense because of the timer and the lack of healing and the mobs being dangerous, and beating it felt rewarding. If only we could have 4 man dungeons like this.
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  10. #200
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    Burning Winter
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    Cerberus
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    It's not just about levels of powers. It's the whole quest.

    It comes out of nowhere and is just forced on you.
    The whole thing what I've seen of it is just bad. The writing is bad. The gameplay is bad. The execution of the quest is bad.
    I'm going to disagree with you there. I think it was great. As others said, it makes you feel helpless. It's like with Marvel's "Who are you without your suit?" - "If you're nothing without your suit - you shouldn't have it" but with blessing instead.
    Also you kinda need to be immersed with the story to understand the atmosphere. Ofc it's fine if you don't like it. It's just I feel like you focus on how annoying the duty is, instead of what's happening around you there.
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