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    Quote Originally Posted by Sani2341 View Post
    Would you mind showing me the DF setting that allows me to solo heal for my daily roulettes? because I am ususally forced to play with a second healer by the game.
    Uh ? Don't think you understand anything in my answer. The game is not forcing you to play a specific job. My point was to show than if you are not going to do your job role, don't play that role. If you queue as healer in 8man daily roulette, you are supposed to heal. If you don't want to heal and still play healer, make a 8man party with your setup and queue for your daily, so you don't ruin others players experience by not healing and letting them die.

    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Doesn't change the fact that your DF dungeons for example still require a healer to queue. Glarebroil spam doesn't only happen in 8 mans.

    Players cannot force Healers to focus on DPS, what are you talking about. They can chose not to play with you at worst. Just like if you're a bad DPS they can chose not to play with you, or if you're a bad Tank that doesn't take aggro.

    Does that mean the devs should design ALL the Jobs to be stale? It's clear having less buttons doesn't make healers heal more. It only makes people that could juggle healing and DPS bored out of their minds!

    If your issue is player behavior, you have now more than ever the tools to cull that behaviour. What the does that have to do with class design? The fact that DPS buttons exist doesn't mean you have to use them on a healer. Player expectation might be there but as you said your role is healer. The bare minimum is keeping people alive.

    You can blame rudeness but you can't blame players for expecting more than the bare minimum!
    Same as above. And I do blame players for forcing healers maximise their DPS. It's not the same as asking a healer to DPS when the party doesnt need healing. There is a difference between playing a role as intended and optimising anything with your party. To optimise something where it requiere 8 players to work together, all those 8 players need to be agree and playing together with that idea of optimisation.
    I'm sorry if I'm not enough clear but english is not my native language.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Answer me this: Picture the scene.... You queue up for 24 man, you get a WHM co healer who maintains Medica II and blasts Cure IIs at anyone who gets so much as a scratch. They are overhealing everything which is absolutely fine, no issues there. Tell me, what do you do when you get a co-healer like this in a 24 man dungeon?
    Irrevelant as he is doing his job so I'm jsut doing mine : heal also and if there is nothing to heal I use my 1 dps button because I dislike to stand doing nothing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Have you ever considered that the comically low expectations and demands on the healers in most content is perhaps the very reason we see so many borderline afk healers that are content to just auto follow and mash a singlular button? No other role can get away with that so readily in 8/24 man content. There is literally zero difficulty curve to end game healing until you hit Extremes and Savage. Casual full party content can be reliably 'cleared' and 'beaten' whilst face down for the entirety of it.

    It's absolutely a design problem. People's bad attitudes are a result of the design that encourages and rewards such a terrible standard of play.
    Who is forcing people to play a job they find boring ? Play something else or change game ?

    Anyway I'm going to drop from that thread because, as I stated, this is my OWN and PERSONNAL opinion of the game and most of people just wanna prove and force me to agree with them lol. Like I never tell you can't go 1H in 8man or don't heal even if you play healer. I just stated than you don't have to force people accepting it and so making your own team with people that are agree so you doesn't ruin the experience of players who play the game in a 'more normal way'.
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