Astrologian changes 6.0

[Sqwall]

Am confused for the people who do not sound happy about endwalker card system, are you guys saying you would prefer stormblood system back(which I love the best and would not mind) or this current boring shadow bringers system be kept and dont want end walker card system?

While I loved the Stormblood cards and it's gameplay it offered to AST. I know now that you were pretty limited on what you could use in Stormblood do to Balance being the only real choice. Shadowbringers just gave us balance for every Draw, and removed the "Damn, I didn't get a Balance!". Now it's basically...."Spire...where's the BLM?" "Ugh, I need a solar...redraw. Oh there it is. Balance huh? Where you at DRG?"

The RNG is still there, but it's based on party makeup. Like I said before Balance was always king in the past. Now we have it...all the time.

People loved the AOE of spire/ewer with a Balance spread. Well Shadowbringers gave us Divination. That is literally the same thing, but now you have a little RNG attached to Divination with seals. Endwalker removed this and just made it a strait buff button...Divination is LITERALLY Balance/AoE now.

Astrodyne is 100% personal now, and AST is better off this way. The RNG is contained to your personal DPS, and no longer hinders the parties damage output. Throw your cards right and watch your seals....nothing really changed there...just astrodyne is personal DPS now. The MP regen and haste is great I think...which will push me to Malefic/Gravity more.

The Lord/Lady is basically harmless RNG. It gives that stormblood flavor back, while giving the minor arcana an actual use. Shadowbringers made Minor arcana trivial, and even more so when they changed sleeve draw to grant that seal you were missing.

Did I prefer the RNG from Stormblood...ehhh. Yes and No. Yes I liked the thrill of the roll of the dice. But I hated that all I was looking for was balance. That's all anyone wanted. Nobody cared that spear granted 10% crit chance. Or arrow granted 15% recast timer reduction. "GiVe Me BaLaNcE TiMe MaGe!"

Now i'm free to throw out w/e I want and not feel obligated to fish for balance. AST really did get the best of both worlds here.

[Brandedblade]

I know alot of people are much more excited about the new kid on the block. But I honestly believe that AST is the healer that got the most improvements. Even though Astrodyne and Minor Arcana do absolutely have the potential to hurt the player from poor RNG, it's at least done in a way that doesn't directly hurt their rdps contribution. It certainly does seem the devs where trying to figure out a way to give ASTs the randomness of the old cards without ruining their ability to buff their party more consistently.

That aside. The new tools they have are pretty cool as well, I'm definitely going to be looking forward to seeing how Macrocosmos is used. Exaltation isn't the most fancy tool, but I do love that it and Macrocosmos are joining Horoscope and Earthly star in the "predict the future" style heals they've slowly been getting.

[Sqwall]

This is the second time in a row that you treat your interlocutor as an idiot that has no idea how healing and the game work, while you act like you are aware of the secrets of the universe. I know it's an alluring option when you have weak arguments, but it's also very obnoxious.

That being said, no. AST needs to do three things: damage, healing and party buffs. None of this is - and I'm quoting you - entirely RNG dependent. Not even close. Now that we - hopefully - made this clear and got rid of hyperboles, we can move on.

To address your question from your previous comment: why would anyone play AST over WHM? Because they like AST more. And because, unless balance is very off (and in this case, they will fix it), AST's basic damage spells, card and divination will, more or less, match WHM's personal damage. Astrodyne and Lord would very likely make AST deal more damage than a WHM if you have perfect RNG, but guess what: it's RNG. It's inconsistent. You can't replicate it realiably. It doesn't matter.


No, the job is not objectively flawed. Your lack of awareness is also so astonishing.
Let me get this straight: some people enjoy the AST changes, some don't. These AST changes make the job more different compared to the rest of the healers. You don't like the job and call it objectively flawed.
Your solution: scrap what makes AST different and make it similar to the rest, so one portion of the playerbase (=me) can be happy. So everyone that wants AST to change can play AST or - like you said - SGE and WHM. Everyone that wants to play EW's AST in its current form can instead play... Ehm... What can they play?
Sounds very healthy and not egoistic at all to me.

I'll assume he was talking about me.

I have been playing AST since it released...First healer I picked up. WHM and SCH were utterly BORING to me. AST offered that flavor.

But your correct here...he must know something I do not. I pray one day this person will grant me the knowledge I have been missing. Now...Watch as I solo heal Emerald Weapon extreme with one tank.

[Mimilu]

One thing I'm curious about is if Minor Arcana is a 50/50 chance. All the videos I watched said they couldn't draw a Lord card and it makes me wonder if Lady have a higher chance of being drawn. (Granted, most of posters weren't healer mains, so I don't now how long they stuck playing AST vs trying SGE out)

[IceBlueNinja]

I really do hope these people rewrite the ast story, aint nothing that hurts me when I see new ast message me asking about things like royal road, time dilation etc, now they gonna probably ask about what is dirunal and noct stance which wont exist.

[rewd]

While I loved the Stormblood cards and it's gameplay it offered to AST. I know now that you were pretty limited on what you could use in Stormblood do to Balance being the only real choice. Shadowbringers just gave us balance for every Draw, and removed the "Damn, I didn't get a Balance!". Now it's basically...."Spire...where's the BLM?" "Ugh, I need a solar...redraw. Oh there it is. Balance huh? Where you at DRG?"

The RNG is still there, but it's based on party makeup. Like I said before Balance was always king in the past. Now we have it...all the time.

People loved the AOE of spire/ewer with a Balance spread. Well Shadowbringers gave us Divination. That is literally the same thing, but now you have a little RNG attached to Divination with seals. Endwalker removed this and just made it a strait buff button...Divination is LITERALLY Balance/AoE now.

Astrodyne is 100% personal now, and AST is better off this way. The RNG is contained to your personal DPS, and no longer hinders the parties damage output. Throw your cards right and watch your seals....nothing really changed there...just astrodyne is personal DPS now. The MP regen and haste is great I think...which will push me to Malefic/Gravity more.

The Lord/Lady is basically harmless RNG. It gives that stormblood flavor back, while giving the minor arcana an actual use. Shadowbringers made Minor arcana trivial, and even more so when they changed sleeve draw to grant that seal you were missing.

Did I prefer the RNG from Stormblood...ehhh. Yes and No. Yes I liked the thrill of the roll of the dice. But I hated that all I was looking for was balance. That's all anyone wanted. Nobody cared that spear granted 10% crit chance. Or arrow granted 15% recast timer reduction. "GiVe Me BaLaNcE TiMe MaGe!"

Now i'm free to throw out w/e I want and not feel obligated to fish for balance. AST really did get the best of both worlds here.

Yes, you got the point. It's RNG that doesn't harm the basic functionality of the job. It's also quite silly to say "RNG punishes you!" Hello? That's the point. RNG/gambling is only fun when you can lose, shocking.

[Sqwall]

Yes, you got the point. It's RNG that doesn't harm the basic functionality of the job. It's also quite silly to say "RNG punishes you!" Hello? That's the point. RNG/gambling is only fun when you can lose, shocking.

Yes I agree. I can't wait to get my hands on Endwalker AST.

[Sqwall]

I really do hope these people rewrite the ast story, aint nothing that hurts me when I see new ast message me asking about things like royal road, time dilation etc, now they gonna probably ask about what is dirunal and noct stance which wont exist.

And sleeve draw

[ItMe]

One thing I'm curious about is if Minor Arcana is a 50/50 chance. All the videos I watched said they couldn't draw a Lord card and it makes me wonder if Lady have a higher chance of being drawn. (Granted, most of posters weren't healer mains, so I don't now how long they stuck playing AST vs trying SGE out)

. . . You're right.
I hadn't realized it, but I was totally hearing that pattern too.
Yeah, I wonder what the odds are...

[Sqwall]

I know alot of people are much more excited about the new kid on the block. But I honestly believe that AST is the healer that got the most improvements. Even though Astrodyne and Minor Arcana do absolutely have the potential to hurt the player from poor RNG, it's at least done in a way that doesn't directly hurt their rdps contribution. It certainly does seem the devs where trying to figure out a way to give ASTs the randomness of the old cards without ruining their ability to buff their party more consistently.

That aside. The new tools they have are pretty cool as well, I'm definitely going to be looking forward to seeing how Macrocosmos is used. Exaltation isn't the most fancy tool, but I do love that it and Macrocosmos are joining Horoscope and Earthly star in the "predict the future" style heals they've slowly been getting.

I agree. I will "try" sage, but only time will tell on how I like shield healing vs. pure healing. I think it's a wash when it comes to keeping players alive, but shield healing needs quite a bit of encounter knowledge to be really effective. Which is why i'll level AST first...learn the fights...then move to sage. Maybe.

AST seems to currently be shaping up to be a strong healer and I see no downsides after really analyzing the skills