Samurai needs damage buffs

[Kolsykol]

Obviously they can respond with their own definition if they like, but based on context id say its a low-knowledge/skill samurai. One who just hits buttons, rather then figuring out(or looking up) how their skills interact with each other so they can actually use them properly. You can get ok damage just by hitting buttons, but youll find yourself outclassed by jobs that actually have lower damage ceilings then yours(not to mention most of them will be buffing the group, so them doing their job and yours better then you kinda makes you redundant). Or you can put in the work to actually learn the class, and leave those people in your shadow.

When I think of a '' freestyle SAM '' I think of SAM's who just do their three combos and the finisher, and then a variety of them some who don't do anything else, some who sometimes throw in a dot when they remember which is rarely.
And then some who actually do keep the dot up and spend their Kenki etc.

Basically, it's a SAM that doesn't follow the actual rotation.
If I say '' filler phase '' they'll go '' the what? ''.
They just use things on CD if they're the fancy kind ( not fancy as in correct, but as in puts in at least a tiny bit of effort ).
And if they're not they just do their combos and finisher.
They don't follow the loop at all so they end up with Tsubame-gaeshi sitting on CD and with dots not being on target for long periods of time and with no Kenki for Kaiten etc.
Again there's a variety of different levels to this not all freestyle SAM are totally awful and beyond redemption.

[Rilifane]

The hell is a freestyle Sam?

Samurai is on a 60s cycle if played correctly and depending on the GCD after buffs, you have a 2-4 GCD filler phase and if any form of downtime occurs, be it from intermissions or uptime loss, you need to adjust your loop accordingly so you don't misalign your cooldowns or they will lose value. So if you lost a GCD and are on a 2 filler, you need to go for a 1 GCD filler and so on.
Meikyo is on a 55s cooldown, double Midare on a 60s cooldown, Ikishoten on 60s aswell but a freestyle Samurai will misalign their cooldowns, using Meikyo too soon or too late, resulting in not getting used for the strong combo finishers to collect stickers, missing stickers for hitting double Midare on time and lacking stickers for regular dot refresh. Instead of playing a clean loop with good dot uptime and selfish burst aligned with raid buffs, they'll constantly have their double Midare at odd times, missing a lot of dot uptime, overcapping Kenki or letting Ikishoten drift and even drop their buffs.
Freestyle Samurai is both a hefty rDPS and aDPS loss but only very few bother with learning the correct loop, let alone constantly adjusting it in a fight with downtime.
Many just play it for Midare goes BRRRRR and the wonder why they get out-dpsed by classes with weaker pDPS.

[Garnix]

Most players play freestyle if that's the definition of it.
That's not only true for SAM.
Some players play complete freestyle.
Some players learn their openers and then play "freestyle".
A very minor percentage of the player base learn how to play correctly with raid buff windows and perfect alignment of their rotation and all that.
And there is a reason for that: it doesn't really matter.

[Caitlyn]

SE needs to buff SAM! Even a fisher can out-dps a SAM!

[Kolsykol]

Most players play freestyle if that's the definition of it.
That's not only true for SAM.
Some players play complete freestyle.
Some players learn their openers and then play "freestyle".
A very minor percentage of the player base learn how to play correctly with raid buff windows and perfect alignment of their rotation and all that.
And there is a reason for that: it doesn't really matter.

It does matter, just stop.
If you don't want to play properly then just accept that and be honest about it but don't spread misinformation and lie to yourself and others.

And to be more thread relevant, if people are not going to play it properly and how it was designed to be played then don't complain about the damage being low and ask for buffs.
It's like BLM '' freestyling '' by just spamming F4 and no Despair and throwing out random spells as filler in Ice phase and then complaining that the damage is low.

It's unreasonable to expect people to play with 100% perfect alignment at all times that's not what we're talking about here we're talking about people totally ignoring the base rotation that the Job was designed for.
And if this didn't matter then why would anyone even bother with it at all?
Guess I shouldn't use Twin Snakes on MNK then because I can still clear most/ all content without it amiright?

[ItMe]

Most players play freestyle if that's the definition of it.

Sauce?

/10

[Jirah]

Most players play freestyle if that's the definition of it.
That's not only true for SAM.
Some players play complete freestyle.
Some players learn their openers and then play "freestyle".
A very minor percentage of the player base learn how to play correctly with raid buff windows and perfect alignment of their rotation and all that.
And there is a reason for that: it doesn't really matter.

Dungeons sure, they baby you hardcore so you can literally spam your aoe for all they care. Ex’s? You’ll hit enrage quickly if your not optimal and Savages ? Forget about it

[Kolsykol]

Dungeons sure, they baby you hardcore so you can literally spam your aoe for all they care. Ex’s? You’ll hit enrage quickly if your not optimal and Savages ? Forget about it

So now we have people saying that rotations don't matter AND that positionals doesn't matter.

So we have people drifting and not doing their actual rotation AND on top of that not doing positionals.
Suddenly it doesn't seem like such a '' minor percentage '' anymore.

[Kabooa]

Dungeons sure, they baby you hardcore so you can literally spam your aoe for all they care. Ex’s? You’ll hit enrage quickly if your not optimal and Savages ? Forget about it

You don't need to be anywhere close to optimal to kill either extremes or post week 1 savages.

[ssunny2008]

Dungeons sure, they baby you hardcore so you can literally spam your aoe for all they care. Ex’s? You’ll hit enrage quickly if your not optimal and Savages ? Forget about it

EX and unreal content doesn´t need any optimal gameplay. You can have like 2-3 ppl suck around or the whole party is playing on maybe 60% of what is possible, which means that they perform the rotation in an "ok" state and use 1 of 10 possible medigations. Savage isn´t really better, atleast the first 2 of 4. The third needs definately more damage and heal and the last one needs to be played optimal in the first week yeah. Everything beyond means that you´ve better gear or super late echo + a relic weapon, which is going to carry you somehow anyway.

Not even ultimate needs to be played perfectly. There are enough ppl out there, who aren´t super elite players, but got the kills. Not to mention that more than enough ppl cashed some dollars / euros to get carried by 6-7 others through them. That SE allows the permanent advertisement in the groupfinder is still a mystery for me.

Savage (maybe not the 4th each pack) is actually more like a normal raid from other games. The reason why so many ppl fail is, that the most don´t remember mechanical sequences properly and kill 7 other players with it. This takes time and a bunch of repetitions. But in kind of needed DPS, medigation or shotcalling?!