Asmongold on NSFW mods

[Zsolen]

The entire point of that study was to prove that the potential presence of guns act as a potential deterrent. The fact that mass-shootings frequently occur in places where there's a significant armed security presence didn't support that idea, so the author simply only focused on whether or not civilians were allowed to possess guns in those locations.


In any case the point still stands, when you look at the statistics without manipulating them intentionally, the VAST majority of shootings take place in areas where civilian gun ownership is permitted.

My point is that you are wrong that it is heavily armed. It's not.

Shootings occur there, because not everyone is allowed to carry. People don't want to open fire on people with guns, unless they feel they have no choice.

Again, the vast majority of mass-shootings happen in areas where civilian gun ownership is permitted, armed security is present, or even both. It does not act as a statistically notable deterrent to mass shootings. The study that was referenced manipulated their data by ignoring the presence of armed security, and using alternative definitions for mass-shooting among other things. It was conducted by an organization with an explicitly political goal.

I am a gun hobbyist myself, and my family even deals in firearms. This hero fantasy stuff is pure american cringe.

Armed security does not matter. No one is going to open fire on a base, if everyone was allowed to carry. Soft targets are preferred.

[Rinhi]

Shootings in gun-free zones actually constitute the vast minority of gun crimes.

but that's what I said?

edit: ah I see, you probably forgot a word
I don't know much about guns myself seeing as I have no interest in them nor live in a country where they're readily available, so my only knowledge about it are some news articles or hearsay from american friends, so I take my statement back because I was wrong!

[Caurcas]

This place doesn't just service the NA region. It covers the EU region as well - which is a sizable portion of the community in itself.

Furthermore, it is because of the apparent abandonment of this forum that such content is even posted here in the first place.

Myself and others have spoken at length on the issue and even requested more of a presence to ensure that constructive feedback is encouraged and gathered, as seen here:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...epresentatives

To be honest the first few pages were pretty constructive on how SE might deal with the issue presented in the original video, but then some people's jimmies got all kinds of rustled and here we are 50+ pages later.

[LittleImp]

My point is that you are wrong that it is heavily armed. It's not.

Shootings occur there, because not everyone is allowed to carry. People don't want to open fire on people with guns, unless they feel they have no choice.

Again, the vast majority of mass-shootings happen in areas where civilian gun ownership is permitted, armed security is present, or even both. It does not act as a statistically notable deterrent to mass shootings. The study that was referenced manipulated their data by ignoring the presence of armed security, and using alternative definitions for mass-shooting among other things. It was conducted by an organization with an explicitly political goal.

I am a gun hobbyist myself, and my family even deals in firearms. This hero fantasy stuff is pure american cringe.

[Caurcas]

Again, the vast majority of mass-shootings happen in areas where civilian gun ownership is permitted, armed security is present, or even both. It does not act as a statistically notable deterrent to mass shootings. The study that was referenced manipulated their data by ignoring the presence of armed security, and using alternative definitions for mass-shooting among other things. It was conducted by an organization with an explicitly political goal.

I am a gun hobbyist myself, and my family even deals in firearms. This hero fantasy stuff is pure american cringe.

Going off that though, can't any stats be manipulated for a political goal? Furthermore, being armed is more a means of both deterrent and means to protect one's self. I don't know where you got "hero fantasy", nor did anyone mention it.

[Plushy]

Its a shame, as the op. I don't have the power to delete or lock my own threads. Seems I messed up and got people talking about guns now.
Where are the gm's? I know they see this train wreak of derailment.

[Axxion]

Its a shame, as the op. I don't have the power to delete or lock my own threads. Seems I messed up and got people talking about guns now.
Where are the gm's? I know they see this train wreak of derailment.

Well welcome to the ff English forums. have to tread very carefully with topics and try to keep them on track.

[BaconBits]

Its a shame, as the op. I don't have the power to delete or lock my own threads. Seems I messed up and got people talking about guns now.
Where are the gm's? I know they see this train wreak of derailment.

Thread was doomed the moment you started off with NSFW to be honest. For better or worse, the mere mention of NSFW mods brings out some strong personalities on both sides of the forum community, each with their own arguments and beliefs.

Mentioning the twins, Ryne, and Lalafells in the same breath as NSFW mods just added fuel to the trash fire.

[Thedudeabides]

Its a shame, as the op. I don't have the power to delete or lock my own threads. Seems I messed up and got people talking about guns now.
Where are the gm's? I know they see this train wreak of derailment.

That tends to happen when you rage bait a mob with alarmist fear mongering. You don't get to decide where the train stops.

[LittleImp]

Going off that though, can't any stats be manipulated for a political goal? Furthermore, being armed is more a means of both deterrent and means to protect one's self. I don't know where you got "hero fantasy", nor did anyone mention it.

Because I grew up hunting and going to gunshows, and have a lot of first hand experience around the reality of this issue. Out of all the CCW holders I know, only one of them actually has anything reasonable to say about why they got liscensed. Most of it just pure powerfantasy cringe, with half of them convinced they're literally cowboys. My neighbor essentially just sticks as many guns to himself as possible, despite being obese and disabled. I'm pretty sure his wife has to put his ankle-holster on for him, and I legitimately have no idea how he would ever be able to get that weapon into service lmao.

Let's put it this way;

Do you want a single pulling duty-finder tank carrying a firearm IRL? How about your average walmart karen?

I'm not entirely against something like concealed carry, but the reality is that there are very few people with the presence of mind and emotional maturity to actually handle that responsibility. Mass-arming the population to somehow deter crime is fantasy; Most Americans shouldn't be allowed within 100 feet of a firearm.