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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    gun crimes by illegally obtained guns, yes
    shootings happen more often in gun-free zones because the criminals know that the people are unlikely to own guns there
    This is an old, essentially fabricated statistic.

    The guy who produced that 'study' counted military bases as gun-free zones, and created his own definition of 'mass-shooting' so that he could get the result that suited him best politically.

    Shootings in gun-free zones actually constitute the vast minority of gun crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    This is an old, essentially fabricated statistic.

    The guy who produced that 'study' counted military bases as gun-free zones, and created his own definition of 'mass-shooting' so that he could get the result that suited him best politically.

    Shootings in gun-free zones actually constitute the vast minority of gun crimes.
    You do know military personnel are not allowed to carry guns on base, right?
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    While the op and I agree and disagree on many points, op did kind of derail the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    While the op and I agree and disagree on many points, op did kind of derail the thread.
    It was derailed the moment people started defending pedo's and talking about them buddy.
    And I think you mean agree "to disagree because I don't think I agreed with anything you said, haven't seen any of your post aside the gun laws.
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    Last edited by Plushy; 09-02-2021 at 06:21 AM.

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    There was a thread asking why the devs don’t interact with the NA forums a little while back. This thread. This thread is why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    You do know military personnel are not allowed to carry guns on base, right?
    You do know that military bases have armed security, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plushy View Post
    It was derailed the moment people started defending pedo's and talking about them buddy.
    I was trying to help get it back on track, then you commented on Awha's post about firearms and sent us down this road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    You do know that military bases have armed security, right?
    That wouldn't help in a gun free zone situation, which is what a base is.

    Schools are the same, even though they may have a resource officer or two on hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trobon View Post
    There was a thread asking why the devs don’t interact with the NA forums a little while back. This thread. This thread is why.
    This place doesn't just service the NA region. It covers the EU region as well - which is a sizable portion of the community in itself.

    Furthermore, it is because of the apparent abandonment of this forum that such content is even posted here in the first place.

    Myself and others have spoken at length on the issue and even requested more of a presence to ensure that constructive feedback is encouraged and gathered, as seen here:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...epresentatives
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    That wouldn't help in a gun free zone situation, which is what a base is.

    Schools are the same, even though they may have a resource officer or two on hand.
    The entire point of that study was to prove that the potential presence of guns act as a potential deterrent. The fact that mass-shootings frequently occur in places where there's a significant armed security presence didn't support that idea, so the author simply only focused on whether or not civilians were allowed to possess guns in those locations.


    In any case the point still stands, when you look at the statistics without manipulating them intentionally, the VAST majority of shootings take place in areas where civilian gun ownership is permitted.
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