Asmongold on NSFW mods

[FrogDog]

In all seriousness- if they did remove Lalafell as a playable option because of how some people view the race, I would leave. A lot of the products I’ve bought on mogstation as well as the accessories I grinded for are tailored to my characters unique body shape. Which ultimately means the time, Gil and irl money spent to customize would have been wasted. So why even play at that point if my investment was literally yeeted to the wayside?

I'm joking of course but there are people who use Lalafell to satisfy their fetishes. I've seen some really creepy search infos, fellowship posts, etc. The fact that people do this shouldn't mean that all Lalafell are painted with the same brush. Likewise, not all mods and modders, not even NSFW ones, should be lumped in with pedos, yet there was a lot of that going on in this thread.

On the subject of Lalafel, you can see posts in like the marriage partner hookup thread where people won't marry a Lala. I've looked at some carrds where people explicitly refuse any kind of romantic or ERP with Lalas. In the discord modding communities I've seen, any kind of Lala NSFW mod is strictly forbidden. So obviously even with as permissive as these subgroups within the community are, there are things that are clearly understood to be taboo and off-limits. That's why the way this thread has gone is just baffling to me because it's pretty much a non-issue but people seem to want to go on a witch hunt.

[Raiya]

Even in the NSFW side of various modding communities, the sort of mods you think are commonplace... Aren't. While I'm not as familiar with FFXIV modding as I am Bethesda games, I don't know any site that allows you to "lewd children". That sort of thing is genuinely looked down upon, no matter what game you're playing.

To be honest I went and looked at some of the mods that are out there, honestly the only ones i can see for lalafell are mainly SFW ones. NSFW and lalafell aren't very popular ones (for obvious reasons). Hell one i looked up turns Lalafell into.... literal potatoes lol!

Generally I think the whole modding thing is just drama for the sake of it right now, most mods I see arent even about NSFW they're augments of existing things ingame some include graphical enhancements of existing assets like texture enhancements. The NSFW ones I can look up comprise of all other races EXCEPT lalafell.

Literally every modding scene I know polices itself pretty well. Mods that explicitly sexualize minors aren't allowed on any major file sharing website. Also, there's actually no way to actually prevent people from modding the game, unless you force a check every time you launch the game... Which is invasive. And also, ultimately pointless, since modders can and will find work arounds, so SE would need a dedicated team to counter it... And the game would need near constant updates.

Like, don't get me wrong... I get being disgusted by the dude who scoured the dude who scoured the internet looking for a mod that made Khole naked... But that dude is an extreme minority in a minority. And to prevent him from being able to do that you'd have to effectively install spyware on people's PCs and constantly update game.

In all honestly Yoshi P has said they don't want to go down this road for good reason, if they decided to install some sort of trashware like gameguard or that which is extremely unpopular with player's it would likely cause more harm than good not to mention divert resources into an essentially self defeating zero sum game of cat and mouse.

That being said the mod community generally wont touch lalafell nsfw for good reasons as they're neither popular or good attention for those hosting them.

[BaconBits]

God of War 2 opening but the Colossus is a Lalafell

[Caurcas]

End of Lalagelion.

[EirolOcarrol]

Wow, this thread certainly shows there are a lot of puritanical people. In this game filled with killing, no less.
And even references to sexual abuse. Including a major character.

I don't think I want the mental anguish of arguing about this topic. And it's Square Enix's game. If mods are banned, then mods are banned.
NSFW is included in that. So I believe are parsers. If NSFW mods are not okay, then neither should parsers be. If publicly posting images made with NSFW mods is and should be bannable, so should be publicly posted parses.

Frankly, most human beings are sexual creatures and human sexuality is a creative force. Even some asexual people like sexual content.
Sexuality can at least be a force for good and pleasurable for all people involved. While violence is only destructive. If anything, I think that video games could stand to be more sexual and less violent. And I think there is something unhealthy about the fact that violent media is so normalized while sexuality is so stigmatized.

I do not ERP in Final Fantasy XIV myself, but I do not care what consenting adults do in their freetime. Consensual sexuality is healthy.
And this sort of prudish mentality is why sex workers are so discriminated against in society. Why OnlyFans tried banning the thing it got rich off of, rich content from the labour of sex workers.

Sexual harassment is wrong. I do not want to give money to Activision Blizzard because I am horrified about the sexual mistreatment that happened there. I will say that the possibility for sexual harassment exists in all online games and all social media. I think that we should give people tools to stay safe, rather than stop adults from respectfully express the sexual side of themselves.

And, regardless of what Square Enix does about this. NSFW content about Final Fantasy XIV and other Square Enix properties will continue to exist. Even if a crackdown were to occur, there will still continue to be NSFW fanart of Final Fantasy XIV. And such a crackdown will just leave Square Enix with less paying customers.

[Theodric]

'Puritan' seems to rapidly be becoming one of those buzzwords thrown around on a whim to describe anybody who dares to point out that maybe, just maybe, not everywhere is an appropriate platform for NSFW content.

If people choose to breach the terms of service that they agreed to abide by when first they created their account then that is their burden to bear - not anybody else's.

Most people are willing to turn a blind eye to NSFW content so long as it isn't paraded around like a badge of honour. It has become very brazen in recent years, with very little subtlety - and there are some very real risks that come with that.

It's all well and good saying that people should be free to do whatever they want in private as long as they are consenting adults. I'd be inclined to agree, though it isn't being done in private in many cases. It's being advertised openly in party finders, bragged about on social media and pushed into the public sphere.

That isn't 'private'. That isn't 'behind closed doors'.

[Neoyoshi]

This thread is like watching ice-cream melt. Except Ice-cream still tastes good. D:

[KageTokage]

'Puritan' seems to rapidly be becoming one of those buzzwords thrown around on a whim to describe anybody who dares to point out that maybe, just maybe, not everywhere is an appropriate platform for NSFW content.

If people choose to breach the terms of service that they agreed to abide by when first they created their account then that is their burden to bear - not anybody else's.

Most people are willing to turn a blind eye to NSFW content so long as it isn't paraded around like a badge of honour. It has become very brazen in recent years, with very little subtlety - and there are some very real risks that come with that.

It's all well and good saying that people should be free to do whatever they want in private as long as they are consenting adults. I'd be inclined to agree, though it isn't being done in private in many cases. It's being advertised openly in party finders, bragged about on social media and pushed into the public sphere.

That isn't 'private'. That isn't 'behind closed doors'.

Pretty much sums how I feel about this.

People can use their mods, but they should keep them to themselves and not be flaunting them openly on social media where it can generate bad publicity or otherwise misrepresent the game's actual content.

[Knot_D]

I really hate the clouts of those people who use mods on social media, sacrificing the fight club's rule for a likes and followers. Such a pity.

[Goji1639]

'Puritan' seems to rapidly be becoming one of those buzzwords thrown around on a whim to describe anybody who dares to point out that maybe, just maybe, not everywhere is an appropriate platform for NSFW content.

If people choose to breach the terms of service that they agreed to abide by when first they created their account then that is their burden to bear - not anybody else's.

Most people are willing to turn a blind eye to NSFW content so long as it isn't paraded around like a badge of honour. It has become very brazen in recent years, with very little subtlety - and there are some very real risks that come with that.

It's all well and good saying that people should be free to do whatever they want in private as long as they are consenting adults. I'd be inclined to agree, though it isn't being done in private in many cases. It's being advertised openly in party finders, bragged about on social media and pushed into the public sphere.

That isn't 'private'. That isn't 'behind closed doors'.

People who flaunt participation in activities the game doesn't allow and get caught knew the risks and should accept their punishment. I don't think anyone would disagree with that.

The word "puritanical" is getting thrown around because of the amount of outrage, hurt feelings and rallying against ERP and NSFW communities; while the equally illegal, and in many ways equally toxic, parser and FFLOGs community is defended to the death. There's a lot of prudes and hypocrites out there when it comes to discussions like this.