Why is the Cruise Chaser mount from the Mogstation?

[DPZ2]

What's HD games referering to, video games?

Yup. Final Fantasy VII remake, the new Nier game, etc. The linked slide set (slide 11 specifically) actually lists examples.

[TTiscancer]

Yeah I hear you buddy. I wish we'd also get some the NA exclusive mounts from amazon deals and whatnot but I understand it hard with regulations and laws in EU and PAL region. Maybe one day we can get some of them in the store like the flying cloud back in the day.



Hmm.... I imagine you're trying to frame this as an insult or gotcha towards me and my experiences. Also confused what this has to do with anything of I just said, oh well.

But to give a serious answer. A ton of F2P MMORPGs but those I spent years on playing actively:

FF11 - 12 years, maybe more (started in 2004-2005 whenever the EU release was)

FF14 - 8+ years (since 1.0)

Wow - On and off since 2007-2008.

GW1 - For about a year

GW2 - Less than a year

Destiny 1 and 2 (if we're counting them as MMOs, since you're asking for different?)

Countless of F2P MMORPG in the 2000s

No gotchas, no framing, was just a genuine question. (I'm not a bad-faith actor, I say what I mean and mean what I say, no more and no less). With your MMO experience, you should be wary of companies putting mounts in the cash shop that belong in the game. It's fine if they are "out of character" mounts like the FF7 bike, but this mount is clearly from a raid, and should be a reward for completing said raid in higher difficulty, like mounts in the past, not from cash shop.

Why? Because it never ends there.

[Packetdancer]

Can you not see why CC being added to the mogstation would be disappointing, if not insulting, for people who've been looking forward to him, even LONG before the datamine, and some even supporting the game since HW and before?

Realistically, though, I think the only way I can see that they could've added Cruise Chaser to the Alexander raid series as an in-game reward would've been to have it be something you could purchase with the Alexander Exoplating item that you can sometimes get from A12S, and which is otherwise only used to make the Alexander miniature housing item. (So, y'know, a largely useless crafting material.) They could have you trade in 3 Exoplating over in Idyllshire to get the mount. And while I wouldn't have objected to that approach, I suspect there'd be a lot of complaints about having to go back and farm A12S (and fight over Exoplating drops) for the mount, or about how new mounts should be tied to new content, etc. And I feel like it would have to be something like the exoplating; you can't just make it the end-of-tier mount drop, because A12S already drops the Arrhidaeus mount. (With the evil tooltip that will give you "Rock Me Amadeus" earworm.) A4S drops the Gobwalker (which is one of the best mounts). And while A8S doesn't have a mount it drops, it wouldn't make a ton of sense to put Cruise Chaser (from A11) as a drop in A8S, a tier before it even appears.

Now, they could also have made it a drop at the end of TEA -- that would work thematically -- but I suspect there would have been a lot of complaints about such an iconic boss (and eagerly-awaited mount) being locked behind Ultimate content, and people bemoaning that Ultimates already get a really distinctive weapon glamour and a title, etc. Or that they already cleared TEA, but now they have to go back and farm it in hopes that they win the drop for the mount. (Or that locking it behind TEA would only encourage the business of selling clears, etc.)

Personally, I've wanted this mount enough that if they put it behind TEA, I'd go make a static and start progging. I mean, I want to do that anyway, but I'd start trying to do it right now if that was where the mount was. I went and cleared DR savage almost solely because I wanted the dumb dog mount, after all. (Though I actually enjoyed it quite a bit, and am perpetually sad that the Secret Cow Fight that happens between Trinity Avowed and the Queen doesn't exist in DR normal.)

But I suspect I am not in the majority there.

What I actually think might've worked well would be to release it during the Make It Rain event, and put it in the MGP vendor for something like 2 million or 2.5 million MGP, or whatever. That would've made it something you needed to put some effort in to obtain, would've been tied to content that's still relevant (because the Gold Saucer is always relevant), and would also have been accessible. Plus, the mount's even golden-colored, right?? But I'd bet you that same 2 million MGP (okay, more like... 1.67 million, since that's all I have in my MGP wallet) that someone would've started a thread complaining that Cruise Chaser should be tied to Alexander content, and that putting it in the Gold Saucer was a travesty.

Because we, as a playerbase -- like most MMO playerbases -- are not a homogenous blob, and no matter what choice a company makes someone is going to be annoyed by it. And probably also will post that annoyance on a forum or Reddit.

[Derio]

Should have been a 3mill MGP cost if they couldnt develop it in time for TEA. Or at the very least should have been a limited time reward before pushing it straight to mogstation.

My problem is it went straight to mogstation. I am still going to buy it, however I would rather have mogstation mounts to be something that isnt already in the game. Things that are already in the game turned into mounts should be new rewards for content or golden saucer rewards because we know golden saucer desperately needs new mgp sinks.

[Gameovers]

Should have been a 3mill MGP cost if they couldnt develop it in time for TEA. Or at the very least should have been a limited time reward before pushing it straight to mogstation.

My problem is it went straight to mogstation. I am still going to buy it, however I would rather have mogstation mounts to be something that isnt already in the game. Things that are already in the game turned into mounts should be new rewards for content or golden saucer rewards because we know golden saucer desperately needs new mgp sinks.

It's not about not having enough time. It was always going to go to the store if it's at the store first. What I mean is it was a mogstation project from the start. It was never going to be an MGP event or anything else. Most likely the store team were making it first which is why it never turned up ingame for anything. It's whatever... the 4 seat car mount is coming in a few weeks anyway. And THAT IS in the game.

[Sotaris]

No gotchas, no framing, was just a genuine question. (I'm not a bad-faith actor, I say what I mean and mean what I say, no more and no less). With your MMO experience, you should be wary of companies putting mounts in the cash shop that belong in the game. It's fine if they are "out of character" mounts like the FF7 bike, but this mount is clearly from a raid, and should be a reward for completing said raid in higher difficulty, like mounts in the past, not from cash shop.

Why? Because it never ends there.

Fair enough. And I've been vocal in multiple threads that I would much more liked it in-game through whatever means (minus being a feast season reward) but I also don't see the problem with a mount for €21 either but I respect people being upset about it. There isn't a need to put down people who share a different opinion on it - on either side.

[InkB]

Yes im going to use "slippery slope" here but look, where is the line going to be drawn?

CC is iconic boss (model) from Alexander raids (and prev FF games). Maybe not for everyone, but certainly for people playing in HW or doing TEA (and the music specially!)

So I ask:

Will we see Eden 4 boss-wroom (you know what I talk about) next on mog? Will we suddenly see 8-seater Nidhogg there? What about E10 boss few expansions from now?

No? Why not!?

If CC is okay why wouldnt I be allowed to ask for E10 boss? Then I can just say "Just dont buy it lel" and "nah fam its ok, you are just using slippery slope. Its just 2 bosses bro its fine. It wont happen again. At least we arent WoW!"

[Sotaris]

Yes im going to use "slippery slope" here but look, where is the line going to be drawn?

CC is iconic boss (model) from Alexander raids (and prev FF games). Maybe not for everyone, but certainly for people playing in HW or doing TEA (and the music specially!)

So I ask:

Will we see Eden 4 boss-wroom (you know what I talk about) next on mog? Will we suddenly see 8-seater Nidhogg there? What about E10 boss few expansions from now?

No? Why not!?

If CC is okay why wouldnt I be allowed to ask for E10 boss? Then I can just say "Just dont buy it lel" and "nah fam its ok, you are just using slippery slope. Its just 2 bosses bro its fine. It wont happen again. At least we arent WoW!"

It's just going to be same thing.

People who don't think it's a big deal with CC, will be just as accepting with a Eden raid mount.

And those who are against it will make a 50+ page thread on this very forum and be upset about it.

Isn't it obvious?

[NanaWiloh]

This binary argument keeps coming up.

If it's not on the Mog Station, it would be a Feast Reward

But why does it have to be either of the two?

It could have been tied to achievement certificates, wolfmarks,Unreal,MGP...so many ways it could have been tied to in-game content.

MMO'S have a habbit of putting the coolest and most desired mounts or items behind difficult content or hard grinds.

[Sotaris]

MMO'S have a habbit of putting the coolest and most desired mounts or items behind difficult content or hard grinds.

Hard grind is one thing but top 100 per data center (not server) in a feast season where we already see a problem with bots and wintrading. That's not making it really permanent nor accessable even for the players who are into pvp or hard to achive rewards.