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  1. #531
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    NishaSetsuya's Avatar
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    Honestly ith how many time SE almost goes bankrupt i'm not complaining about CC, it's just a mount it's not like the Cloud Bike mount
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  2. #532
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    That one was ok, it had no relation to ours and we at least got his outfit for free... the Bike was ok, its higher speed kindt isnt but welp... The Chaser was our Boss and shouldve been an ingame reward... heck just add some shiny golden one for the store if you have too...
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  3. #533
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    That one was ok, it had no relation to ours and we at least got his outfit for free... the Bike was ok, its higher speed kindt isnt but welp... The Chaser was our Boss and shouldve been an ingame reward... heck just add some shiny golden one for the store if you have too...
    Actually like any element in FFXIV, Cruise chaser is based on Ark a summon who originate in FFIX, so yea it's not something really specific to Final fantasy XIV just another recurring in the final fantasy series
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  4. #534
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    Divinemights's Avatar
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    This complaint is periodically show up when there is a mount people really want but don’t want to pay for it. Fine, in the future they can put this mount as feast reward since most of feast mount were raid boss

    Oh wait, didn’t there are bunch or bad pvpers begging feast mount on mpg stations?

    Does SE ever wins?
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  5. #535
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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vonleo View Post
    Did a quick Google search as I don't know anything about cost to make and run an MMO but it says 150m to 500m to be set aside to start an MMO so if you think about it they had to make TWO MMO's not just one because of the disaster of 1.0
    True. But he mentioned FFXV. And FFXV is not a MMO. So $600,000,000 for a single player game is a total disaster.


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  6. #536
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Quote Originally Posted by NishaSetsuya View Post
    Actually like any element in FFXIV, Cruise chaser is based on Ark a summon who originate in FFIX, so yea it's not something really specific to Final fantasy XIV just another recurring in the final fantasy series
    Yes ofc, but still it was part of our game unlike the Bike, that or even the Regalia I wouldnt mind as much. The whale while its a shame (and still overpriced) is kinda ok too.

    Its just the Chaser is smt that was made for the game and especially he had several places where it would just fit - if it would just be reviving rival wings that wouldve been already nice.


    And no all those feast exclusives are bs anyways, there shouldve been at least one variant you could get somewhere else, IDK whats up with them always trying to force ppl into doing stuff they just dont like or got time for...
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  7. #537
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    That game is a terrible example tbh, FFXV was a developement disaster. That game was in developement for 10 years and for 6 of those years it most likely did nothing but eat up money.
    To be fair, that further bolsters my point though. Square Enix essentially lost their shirt over their own disastrous decisions in the early 2010s. They're going to try recouping costs elsewhere...

    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    Sorry but $600,000,000 are roughly ten times more than the development costs of an AAA-title. The joke is, the marketing(!) costs are usually higher than the development costs. When a company needs $600,000,000 for a game then something went really really really wrong.


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    The Last of Us 2 reportedly cost well over $100,000,000 without any marketing accounted for, which will likely more than double that number. That isn't a difference of "ten times" by any stretch. And yes, marketing typically does cost a ridiculous amount. This is true of film too. Which is why a movie like Batman vs. Superman was deemed a financial failure despite grossing 900M. The overall cost meant they barely made much profit of an expected billion dollar film. In other words, the entertainment business as a whole... spends an obscene amount of money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vonleo View Post
    Did a quick Google search as I don't know anything about cost to make and run an MMO but it says 150m to 500m to be set aside to start an MMO so if you think about it they had to make TWO MMO's not just one because of the disaster of 1.0
    I believe ESO cost $250M, or that was the allotted budget.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 08-16-2021 at 01:00 AM.
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  8. #538
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeraRamis View Post
    My goodness. 54 pages of this noise.

    Out of curiosity, do the complainers throw rocks at people pulling out of Porsche lots? Maserati dealerships? How about Lamborghini?

    No? Well, why not? I mean, after all, those purchases affect you directly - that's not up for debate. The new owners often drive their sportscars very fast, thereby endangering other drivers; higher priced super-cars demand obscene insurance premiums, raising the median rate, and thus allowing insurance companies to charge you more; a lot of the land rovers and 100,000 dollar mega-trucks of the world aren't particularly environmentally friendly vehicles, either. The negative impacts are there... so where is that collective outrage?

    Could it be that you know to mind your own business IRL? That you acknowledge - at least on some level - that we live in a free society where people are able to make decisions regarding their money without you deserving of any form of input? Might you - and I know this is a stretch - potentially experience some level of shame in trying to dictate their behavior? Much less ruin their good time?

    If the answer is yes, then why can't you keep your nose out of it here?
    You certainly are fine when people having thi kind of arguments on your thread. As long as it supports you, eh?

    I suggest you take your own advice, since not only you strawman your argument so hard by comparing a sport cars to a mount from a freaking game, you also act condescendingly.

    People who are against the mount on cash shop have problems with SE, not with anyone else who bought it. At worst it's just a "man, why do people support this kind of cash grab". Do we personally harass you? Do we harass your character in game? Do we hack your account? You're angry at real person, who's disappointed with a big company that doesn't need your protection. That's the difference.

    If you really don't care about us like you claimed, why not leave us alone? You even had your "hah take that!" moment already by buying the mount out of pettiness.
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  9. #539
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    It's a mechanical mount- meaning 0.1% of players would have ever had access to it. Just something to keep in mind- effectively every single person in this thread would not have been able to get cruise chaser if they put it in as a Feast reward- a fomo, ultra difficult to obtain mount like every other amazing item that has come from Feast yet you never see in game.

    That's how rare these items are- I've never even seen someone riding a feast mount, they're so rare they don't even show on that rarity site.

    Are store mounts ideal? No- but I'd rather be able to get something awesome like magna roader off the store then not at all, Feast items kinda just feel like they've made a bunch of amazing looking items that simply will never exist for players.
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  10. #540
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    Zaetia Pryce
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElciaDeiLinus View Post
    It's a mechanical mount- meaning 0.1% of players would have ever had access to it. Just something to keep in mind- effectively every single person in this thread would not have been able to get cruise chaser if they put it in as a Feast reward- a fomo, ultra difficult to obtain mount like every other amazing item that has come from Feast yet you never see in game.

    That's how rare these items are- I've never even seen someone riding a feast mount, they're so rare they don't even show on that rarity site.

    Are store mounts ideal? No- but I'd rather be able to get something awesome like magna roader off the store then not at all, Feast items kinda just feel like they've made a bunch of amazing looking items that simply will never exist for players.
    This binary argument keeps coming up.

    If it's not on the Mog Station, it would be a Feast Reward

    But why does it have to be either of the two?

    It could have been tied to achievement certificates, wolfmarks,Unreal,MGP...so many ways it could have been tied to in-game content.
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