Why is the Cruise Chaser mount from the Mogstation?

[InkB]

CC is only the second boss gone mount to be added to the mog. The fact that people are going chicken little over it considering how many there are in game is just mind boggling.

I agree with ZedxKayn, what is the number we should be worrying? 3? 4? Some say its already too late after first one!

If/when its 3 boss mounts are we just going to hear "its too late now, this is going to continue. Please stop complaining you had your chances at CC"?

Like i've said in my previous post. Are we just going to hear people defending this as "nah fam, its just 3 boss mounts. Its not slippery slope at all! (even if it happened 3 times already)"? Spoiler: We are.

[Thaciscokidd]

And for how many mounts should we wait for until we start being vocal?

You can be as vocal as you want. But as long as there is enough people to buy it, being vocal will just be white noise in the background while they count the money that they made.

[NanaWiloh]

And for how many mounts should we wait for until we start being vocal?

Start complaing when they do one in game and 4 or more going to the mog. Being that it seems to be 1 to the mog every 4yrs and the rest kept in game. I feel its safe to say they wont be going that route anytime. Especially with so many people flaming them about it. As I said earlier love that people scream and cry about things they really want being put on the mog. But when its something they don't want or care for suddenly they are quite...

[ZedxKayn]

Start complaing when they do one in game and 4 or more going to the mog. Being that it seems to be 1 to the mog every 4yrs and the rest kept in game. I feel its safe to say they wont be going that route anytime. Especially with so many people flaming them about it.

Because people flame them and complain about it, they're unlikely to go down that route, therefore there's no reason to complain?

In the end we're paying customers, if we don't like something that happens to the product we're paying for, we're definitely entitled to voice our displeasure or concern as much as we'd like to.

Unlike what some people (not necessarily you) act like, the game isn't free and the content we're getting (or not) isn't a gift out of sheer generosity from the devs.

[Alaray]

You can be as vocal as you want. But as long as there is enough people to buy it, being vocal will just be white noise in the background while they count the money that they made.

People can be vocal against something they don't like, I don't understand the position of defending monetization practices of corporations. Yes, they'll try and sell whatever'll make them money. Anything.

XIV isn't really immune to the route that lead another company to sell a Dark Portal Pass. I wouldn't put it past the company to try and sell BiS raid gear in the mogstation if they thought they could get away with it, with little pushback from the playerbase. Because, yes: at the end of the day, the corporation only cares about profit generated. Especially when the argument isn't "the mogstation should be deleted" but instead "the mogstation should stick to selling items that are unique to itself, like the Nezha wheels, the fatcat, the nimbus, etc... vs. Cruise Chaser, [or Twintania, even with the RaF bit]. I know I'd be pretty bummed if they chose to put a 30+ dollar price tag on a Bahamut mount, and not offering it as a reward in game for achieving/doing something.

tbh, Cruise Chaser in the context of a mount would've been pretty cool for the BLU Alexander Raid achievement, over the Morbol. Or even just a cool mount to add to the Omega line that has no mount reward for BLU. Or, y'know, as a Rival Wings reward for x wins like all the maps have, or for a lot of Wolf Marks to inject more activity into PvP and provide a light chase item to tide over til Endwalker or so on. If there's 0 critique or vocalizations about CC in Mogstation, then I wouldn't be shocked if they tried to sell a Mogstation Bahamut to capitalize off Bahamut's popularity, iconography, and nostalgia with the players who already play the game. But I wouldn't like to see it, regardless.

I don't want to see the game ultimately consumed by it's own monetization practices, things relevant to XIV in the way things like Cruise Chaser/Alexander Raid Bosses in general or Bahamut/Coils bosses etc... should be obtainable via playing XIV. Things like the Lunar Whale, the Nezha mount, Red Hare, etc... are fine by me to be in the mogstation since they aren't so relevantly tied in with XIV as a game and are more nostalgic fluff pieces, or just new things entirely and still look just fine.

[NanaWiloh]

Because people flame them and complain about it, they're unlikely to go down that route, therefore there's no reason to complain?

In the end we're paying customers, if we don't like something that happens to the product we're paying for, we're definitely entitled to voice our displeasure or concern as much as we'd like to.

Unlike what some people (not necessarily you) act like, the game isn't free and the content we're getting (or not) isn't a gift out of sheer generosity from the devs.

Thank you for not grouping me with said people. I am not for the mog or against but I do have my line in the sand the mog has just not crossed it yet. I am also just very black and white on this matter. If you are going to complain about one mount on the mog then complain about them all, cause mog only mounts could have been added in game as well. But this can be said for everything on the mogstation..

[NanaWiloh]

People can be vocal against something they don't like, I don't understand the position of defending monetization practices of corporations. Yes, they'll try and sell whatever'll make them money. Anything.

XIV isn't really immune to the route that lead another company to sell a Dark Portal Pass. I wouldn't put it past the company to try and sell BiS raid gear in the mogstation if they thought they could get away with it, with little pushback from the playerbase. Because, yes: at the end of the day, the corporation only cares about profit generated. Especially when the argument isn't "the mogstation should be deleted" but instead "the mogstation should stick to selling items that are unique to itself, like the Nezha wheels, the fatcat, the nimbus, etc... vs. Cruise Chaser, [or Twintania, even with the RaF bit]. I know I'd be pretty bummed if they chose to put a 30+ dollar price tag on a Bahamut mount, and not offering it as a reward in game for achieving/doing something.

tbh, Cruise Chaser in the context of a mount would've been pretty cool for the BLU Alexander Raid achievement, over the Morbol. Or even just a cool mount to add to the Omega line that has no mount reward for BLU. Or, y'know, as a Rival Wings reward for x wins like all the maps have, or for a lot of Wolf Marks to inject more activity into PvP and provide a light chase item to tide over til Endwalker or so on. If there's 0 critique or vocalizations about CC in Mogstation, then I wouldn't be shocked if they tried to sell a Mogstation Bahamut to capitalize off Bahamut's popularity, iconography, and nostalgia with the players who already play the game. But I wouldn't like to see it, regardless.

I don't want to see the game ultimately consumed by it's own monetization practices, things relevant to XIV in the way things like Cruise Chaser/Alexander Raid Bosses in general or Bahamut/Coils bosses etc... should be obtainable via playing XIV. Things like the Lunar Whale, the Nezha mount, Red Hare, etc... are fine by me to be in the mogstation since they aren't so relevantly tied in with XIV as a game and are more nostalgic fluff pieces, or just new things entirely and still look just fine.

Lunar whale is tied to the game through Endwalkers.

[Alaray]

Lunar whale is tied to the game through Endwalkers.

It's a FF39 nostalgia item, it's first introduction to FFXIV was immediately as a cash shop item. It did not exist in any capacity in FFXIV before then, so you missed my point.

[Thaciscokidd]

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To address there first line of your comment. I think we must got our lines crossed. I basically said that people need to vote with there wallets but if enough people still buy it though the vocal will be pushed off as the vocal minority in the eyes of the people making the decision.

But on why the CC is on the Mogstation, its just SE trying to make a profits. Even when combined with DQX its at the bottom of the digital earning barrel which is not a good look for either IP when it comes to who matters to SE(not the devs) the shareholders. I love this game, but if you just watch what other companies are doing it would be quicker and more profitable to put funds into the gatcha/loot box market where you can get a proper whale and not a whale that just spent $30 dollars on a one time purchase per account. CC being on the mogstation is far from the worst case scenario. But the next two quarter earning statements(post boost in pop and post EW launch) will help to see where they go with future mog station products.

TBH I know Yoshi P is not in charge of what goes on the store, but I want to know if they at least consult him for input or did they do there own research into what will be good for what goes up.

[NanaWiloh]

It's a FF8 nostalgia item, it's first introduction to FFXIV was immediately as a cash shop item. It did not exist in any capacity in FFXIV before then, so you missed my point.

You missed mine..its part of Endwalkers as in it has a role in the story. It also first appeared in FF4..