Why is the Cruise Chaser mount from the Mogstation?

[ForteNightshade]

And for those of you who are still complaining about Square Enix not putting enough funding into their favorite MMO, consider that all of the MMO revenue amounts to about 13% of net sales. Note that operating expenses for the MMO are higher than for the other "Digital media" units.

If I were an executive for corporate SE, I wouldn't hear a word of "this game makes the company a lot of money, therefore ..." from players of either of its MMOs. I'd be more likely to say "OK, how can we fund the next set of mobile games, which are cheaper and faster to produce than an MMO".

Net sales: (FY2022/3 Q1)

MMO 11.6 billion yen
HD Games 25.1 billion yen
Mobile 33 billion yen

Amusement 9.4 billion yen [Actual arcades, mostly]

Publications 7.2 billion yen

Merchandising 2.7 billion yen

(source: https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/i...22q1slides.pdf)

This is actually something Yoshida has cited as a specific reason it's been so difficult to find battle content designers. There is simply far more opportunity and money in the mobile industry, especially in Japan. It sucks to hear for most of us considering how awful and scummy said mobile industry is, but corporate doesn't really give a damn.

[Gameovers]

Yes im going to use "slippery slope" here but look, where is the line going to be drawn?

CC is iconic boss (model) from Alexander raids (and prev FF games). Maybe not for everyone, but certainly for people playing in HW or doing TEA (and the music specially!)

So I ask:

Will we see Eden 4 boss-wroom (you know what I talk about) next on mog? Will we suddenly see 8-seater Nidhogg there? What about E10 boss few expansions from now?

No? Why not!?

If CC is okay why wouldnt I be allowed to ask for E10 boss? Then I can just say "Just dont buy it lel" and "nah fam its ok, you are just using slippery slope. Its just 2 bosses bro its fine. It wont happen again. At least we arent WoW!"

It'll be one thing if the Savage raids didn't give you mounts at all. But the issue is they do. So it's not really a thing where you can say they are taking things from the game. Again if you got nothing from savage then you'd have a point.. but you DO get mounts from savage. In order words, this is not a thing you need to be worried about. This CC mount wasn't a thing for 5 years. Tho I feel like people would complain even IF it was behind something in game cause lets be real here. It would NOT have been a simple 3 mil MGP mount or whatever. It'll been in the hardest thing to get with a low drop rate like most things like that ingame. Most likely in feast for top 100. Thats a big IF anyway since it's been 5 years anyway. I stand by it that it was ALWAYS gonna be a store mount if it took 5 years for it to happen.

[TTiscancer]

This is actually something Yoshida has cited as a specific reason it's been so difficult to find battle content designers. There is simply far more opportunity and money in the mobile industry, especially in Japan. It sucks to hear for most of us considering how awful and scummy said mobile industry is, but corporate doesn't really give a damn.

Is it any wonder people in Japan don't have time for MMOs with the work culture they have. Only the unemployed have time for MMOs in Japan.

[NanaWiloh]

Hard grind is one thing but top 100 per data center (not server) in a feast season where we already see a problem with bots and wintrading. That's not making it really permanent nor accessable even for the players who are into pvp or hard to achive rewards.

Look at the Ozma mount and say they wouldnt do it...

[NanaWiloh]

Cant edit my post right now. But Omxa may not be a feast mount. But it is getting harder to get it as time goes on. Its also a iconic mount as well. Alongside the ADS module, eden..so on. All these are obtainable in game. Selp and cc are the only 2 on the mog.

[KatieConnr]

Why is the Cruise Chaser mount from the Mogstation?

..Because that is where they put it?

[Packetdancer]

Look at the Ozma mount and say they wouldnt do it...

The Demi-Ozma from Baldesion Arsenal is still available now, though. The content you need to get through to get it is grindy, yes, and getting a BA group together is not trivial (though the various Discords out there make it reasonably doable now), but the reward is still available now; no matter how many people clear the Arsenal and get the mount, it continues to be available. The same is true with the Cerberus mount from Delubrum Reginae's savage variant; I have no idea how many of us on my data-center have the Cerberus mount, but I would bet you the numbers are somewhere north of a thousand, and since the reward continues to be available, I imagine the number will only increase.

Conversely, a Feast reward mount is available one time, and one time only, and only for 100 people per data center. If they put Cruise Chaser as a Feast reward mount and only 100 people on Primal could ever get it, and only 100 on Crystal, and so on... I suspect people would have been livid.

[InkB]

It'll be one thing if the Savage raids didn't give you mounts at all. But the issue is they do. So it's not really a thing where you can say they are taking things from the game. Again if you got nothing from savage then you'd have a point.. but you DO get mounts from savage. In order words, this is not a thing you need to be worried about. This CC mount wasn't a thing for 5 years. Tho I feel like people would complain even IF it was behind something in game cause lets be real here. It would NOT have been a simple 3 mil MGP mount or whatever. It'll been in the hardest thing to get with a low drop rate like most things like that ingame. Most likely in feast for top 100. Thats a big IF anyway since it's been 5 years anyway. I stand by it that it was ALWAYS gonna be a store mount if it took 5 years for it to happen.

Thing is, my point isnt about savage mounts dropping or not. Or how hard it would be to get. Its about iconic bosses with music turned into mounts. Its about using boss models in a way that you try to incite nostalgia, among other feelings, in some players - and try to make them buy it.

For example I know lot of FF8 fans who were literally only doing E12S for the mount because FF8 was their fav FF. Or people doing eureka because they loved FFXI. Or doing bozja for the FFXII stuff. This is what I want from the game. Cool nostalgic mounts in-game to push you do more and help others, not swipe CC (lol) from mogstation.

Anyway im rambling but back to my original point:

Im against usage of boss models for mogstation items. To me, Twintania already felt bit "Eh!?" because it was coils boss thro recruit friend reward (so essentially paid, but not directly). I dont want to see the trend continuing. I dont mind about mounts in mogstation, just make them original, new, not re-used assets and maybe never seen in-game before.

For example a mount that I really dont have issues with in Mogstation is Fat Cat. Yes the minions been there since ARR, but it doesnt feel like middle-finger to see it in store as a mount like I feel when CC is.

And again, if CC is okay why would they stop there? Why not add that E4 model next? Why not make leviathan as mount? Or Ifrit? And no, I dont want those as mounts thro in-game either. But at least CC was close to "would be cool to have" because you can do that in PvP and mechanical bosses are bit more lore-friendly as mounts than primals..

I just hope this trend does not continue.

[NanaWiloh]

Thing is, my point isnt about savage mounts dropping or not. Or how hard it would be to get. Its about iconic bosses with music turned into mounts. Its about using boss models in a way that you try to incite nostalgia, among other feelings, in some players - and try to make them buy it.

For example I know lot of FF8 fans who were literally only doing E12S for the mount because FF8 was their fav FF. Or people doing eureka because they loved FFXI. Or doing bozja for the FFXII stuff. This is what I want from the game. Cool nostalgic mounts in-game to push you do more and help others, not swipe CC (lol) from mogstation.

Anyway im rambling but back to my original point:

Im against usage of boss models for mogstation items. To me, Twintania already felt bit "Eh!?" because it was coils boss thro recruit friend reward (so essentially paid, but not directly). I dont want to see the trend continuing. I dont mind about mounts in mogstation, just make them original, new, not re-used assets and maybe never seen in-game before.

For example a mount that I really dont have issues with in Mogstation is Fat Cat. Yes the minions been there since ARR, but it doesnt feel like middle-finger to see it in store as a mount like I feel when CC is.

And again, if CC is okay why would they stop there? Why not add that E4 model next? Why not make leviathan as mount? Or Ifrit? And no, I dont want those as mounts thro in-game either. But at least CC was close to "would be cool to have" because you can do that in PvP and mechanical bosses are bit more lore-friendly as mounts than primals..

I just hope this trend does not continue.

CC is only the second boss gone mount to be added to the mog. The fact that people are going chicken little over it considering how many there are in game is just mind boggling.

[ZedxKayn]

CC is only the second boss gone mount to be added to the mog. The fact that people are going chicken little over it considering how many there are in game is just mind boggling.

And for how many mounts should we wait for until we start being vocal?