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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    And for how many mounts should we wait for until we start being vocal?
    You can be as vocal as you want. But as long as there is enough people to buy it, being vocal will just be white noise in the background while they count the money that they made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd View Post
    You can be as vocal as you want. But as long as there is enough people to buy it, being vocal will just be white noise in the background while they count the money that they made.
    People can be vocal against something they don't like, I don't understand the position of defending monetization practices of corporations. Yes, they'll try and sell whatever'll make them money. Anything.

    XIV isn't really immune to the route that lead another company to sell a Dark Portal Pass. I wouldn't put it past the company to try and sell BiS raid gear in the mogstation if they thought they could get away with it, with little pushback from the playerbase. Because, yes: at the end of the day, the corporation only cares about profit generated. Especially when the argument isn't "the mogstation should be deleted" but instead "the mogstation should stick to selling items that are unique to itself, like the Nezha wheels, the fatcat, the nimbus, etc... vs. Cruise Chaser, [or Twintania, even with the RaF bit]. I know I'd be pretty bummed if they chose to put a 30+ dollar price tag on a Bahamut mount, and not offering it as a reward in game for achieving/doing something.

    tbh, Cruise Chaser in the context of a mount would've been pretty cool for the BLU Alexander Raid achievement, over the Morbol. Or even just a cool mount to add to the Omega line that has no mount reward for BLU. Or, y'know, as a Rival Wings reward for x wins like all the maps have, or for a lot of Wolf Marks to inject more activity into PvP and provide a light chase item to tide over til Endwalker or so on. If there's 0 critique or vocalizations about CC in Mogstation, then I wouldn't be shocked if they tried to sell a Mogstation Bahamut to capitalize off Bahamut's popularity, iconography, and nostalgia with the players who already play the game. But I wouldn't like to see it, regardless.

    I don't want to see the game ultimately consumed by it's own monetization practices, things relevant to XIV in the way things like Cruise Chaser/Alexander Raid Bosses in general or Bahamut/Coils bosses etc... should be obtainable via playing XIV. Things like the Lunar Whale, the Nezha mount, Red Hare, etc... are fine by me to be in the mogstation since they aren't so relevantly tied in with XIV as a game and are more nostalgic fluff pieces, or just new things entirely and still look just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaray View Post
    People can be vocal against something they don't like, I don't understand the position of defending monetization practices of corporations. Yes, they'll try and sell whatever'll make them money. Anything.

    XIV isn't really immune to the route that lead another company to sell a Dark Portal Pass. I wouldn't put it past the company to try and sell BiS raid gear in the mogstation if they thought they could get away with it, with little pushback from the playerbase. Because, yes: at the end of the day, the corporation only cares about profit generated. Especially when the argument isn't "the mogstation should be deleted" but instead "the mogstation should stick to selling items that are unique to itself, like the Nezha wheels, the fatcat, the nimbus, etc... vs. Cruise Chaser, [or Twintania, even with the RaF bit]. I know I'd be pretty bummed if they chose to put a 30+ dollar price tag on a Bahamut mount, and not offering it as a reward in game for achieving/doing something.

    tbh, Cruise Chaser in the context of a mount would've been pretty cool for the BLU Alexander Raid achievement, over the Morbol. Or even just a cool mount to add to the Omega line that has no mount reward for BLU. Or, y'know, as a Rival Wings reward for x wins like all the maps have, or for a lot of Wolf Marks to inject more activity into PvP and provide a light chase item to tide over til Endwalker or so on. If there's 0 critique or vocalizations about CC in Mogstation, then I wouldn't be shocked if they tried to sell a Mogstation Bahamut to capitalize off Bahamut's popularity, iconography, and nostalgia with the players who already play the game. But I wouldn't like to see it, regardless.

    I don't want to see the game ultimately consumed by it's own monetization practices, things relevant to XIV in the way things like Cruise Chaser/Alexander Raid Bosses in general or Bahamut/Coils bosses etc... should be obtainable via playing XIV. Things like the Lunar Whale, the Nezha mount, Red Hare, etc... are fine by me to be in the mogstation since they aren't so relevantly tied in with XIV as a game and are more nostalgic fluff pieces, or just new things entirely and still look just fine.
    Lunar whale is tied to the game through Endwalkers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Lunar whale is tied to the game through Endwalkers.
    It's a FF39 nostalgia item, it's first introduction to FFXIV was immediately as a cash shop item. It did not exist in any capacity in FFXIV before then, so you missed my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaray View Post
    It's a FF8 nostalgia item, it's first introduction to FFXIV was immediately as a cash shop item. It did not exist in any capacity in FFXIV before then, so you missed my point.
    You missed mine..its part of Endwalkers as in it has a role in the story. It also first appeared in FF4..
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaray View Post
    It's a FF8 nostalgia item, it's first introduction to FFXIV was immediately as a cash shop item. It did not exist in any capacity in FFXIV before then, so you missed my point.
    Lunar Whale isn't in any way connected to FF8 and never showed up there, it's a ship in FF4.
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