The New Sage Icon, Thoughts?

[Amnmaat]

It may be simple, but I would like to see this as the new job-icon.
No "mouth", no holes. Sorry for the bad quality. Made it quick in gimp.

So much better, though I still prefer them just lined up in a row.

[RyuDragnier]

It's not a problem for me, but I don't see the benefit to SE here.

This is basically SE announcing that they'll listen to and act on any nitpicky nonsense the community can come up with, no matter how trivial. Listening to the community is important, but so is setting boundaries.

You want to know the sort of thing setting them off? Look up image examples of trypophobia and you'll understand immediately why it's disturbing. Some people it sets off easier than others. Few things set that off in me (the previous icon did not) but I can imagine how quickly it set off some people who are really sensitive to that sort of thing. Changing it hurts nobody, and only helps SE with PR.

[Goji1639]

That doesn't even make sense, a slippery slope argument would be about leading to bigger or more expansive things, not smaller insignificant things.

In this case a slippery slope would indicate that something somewhat reasonable would become increasingly absurd and trivial, until even the most petty of requests are deserving of action.

You want to know the sort of thing setting them off? Look up image examples of trypophobia and you'll understand immediately why it's disturbing. Some people it sets off easier than others. Few things set that off in me (the previous icon did not) but I can imagine how quickly it set off some people who are really sensitive to that sort of thing. Changing it hurts nobody, and only helps SE with PR.

It may help with PR a little bit now, but it hurts later. SE can't reasonably accommodate every single aspect of everyone's sensibilities, so they've just set a precedent they can't live up to.

[ethanrae]

It may be simple, but I would like to see this as the new job-icon.
No "mouth", no holes. Sorry for the bad quality. Made it quick in gimp.

I also really like this redesign. I didn't like the first one because of the rod going through the hole... seemed weird and also I don't think nouliths do that? So why does the job icon have that???

[Fland]

I didn't say it was a slippery slope; I said it's so ridiculous that it sounds like an absurdist slippery slope argument someone would make against inclusiveness in gaming.

Example: "Removing flashing lights in an encounter to make it better for epileptics?!? What's next... altering/limiting stylized designs based on the fact that some people don't like bumpy textures?!?"

And yet when SE patch the flashing light in Nier raid, it didn't suddenly open the flood gate or whatever that you're referring to. So why this barely significant change they made would lead to anything?

[Yencat]

It's not a problem for me, but I don't see the benefit to SE here.

They sell plenty of merch with job icons on it, if people don't like it or are put off by it for whatever reason they might sell less of them.

For the presumably tiny amount of work and time I imagine this took that's a decent enough reason to take and go ahead and change it and benefit from it.

[Goji1639]

And yet when SE patch the flashing light in Nier raid, it didn't suddenly open the flood gate or whatever that you're referring to. So why this barely significant change they made would lead to anything?

Again, I didn't say it was a slippery slope. I just said that this change sounds like the absurdist end of a slippery slope argument.

What I am saying, however, is that addressing things this trivial in nature will shift peoples expectations. SE doesn't really want to move expectations in this direction, because it isn't sustainable; they'll disappoint way more people than they impress.

They sell plenty of merch with job icons on it, if people don't like it or are put off by it for whatever reason they might sell less of them.

For the presumably tiny amount of work and time I imagine this took that's a decent enough reason to take and go ahead and change it and benefit from it.

Again, it's more a matter of expectations. If SE wants to create the impression that they'll shift gears at any indication that anyone's sensibilities aren't being accommodated, then that's what people will start expecting of them. That's a rough precedent to live up to.

[Burmecia]

The best redesign so far.

Word. Moree characteeers. Done.

[Fourbestintoner]

This icon, gnb's sound effects, fell cleave, broil, every time they change something it's for the worse.
Might as well just fill the fourth one too, it looks out of place now.

[Yencat]

Again, it's more a matter of expectations. If SE wants to create the impression that they'll shift gears at any indication that anyone's sensibilities aren't being accommodated, then that's what people will start expecting of them. That's a rough precedent to live up to.

You asked what the benefit was for them to do this and I gave you one, even if it was a more cynical view on why they might have done it.

If a company sees a benefit in accommodating a request from paying customers that doesn't take a ton of work and doesn't impact their own vision too much, and might even earn them MORE money, then they will do it.

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