Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
Plenty wrong with it. Why does it matter if they improve? What are you getting out of it? They are having fun, they enjoy the game, and the content gets done. It is designed for them. So you telling me that you want people to improve out of the kindness of your heart? If you are so kind, than why can't you just accept that people might play bad at the class but still having fun.
because it's very self-centered to do so in a multiplayer game? a game about cooperation where you're adamantly defending people refusing to cooperate and instead impose their selfish
"it is designed for them" come the f on, dude, just because you keep saying it doesn't mean it's true, content is there to be played, not being afk through'd

actual elitists wouldn't even bother to argue with people like you, to try and make you understand - because they simply don't do the same content and they know it's not worth the hassle, but keep painting "us" as elitist tryhards because we want people to actually use their damn abilities

Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
Like I said. The content is designed for players like them. They don't need to improve and this might be a shocker...but many people still have fun being bad at the game. And rather play in a way they enjoy. Because at the end of the day, it is still a game. They are doing content they belong in. So your help is not needed and wanted for some of them. It kinda comes off as self center a little to even say I just want players to be better in a game for no personal reasons at all. All because some people are not happy that the content takes longer to do!
they don't need to improve because they pass your insanely low standards, but having some kind of higher standard has you frothing at your mouth, makes sense
no one cares if someone is bad at the game if the player in question is willing to improve, but that's too much to ask or expect apparently
not a single dungeon in this game should take longer than 20-25 minutes with a bad DF group and yet, I've experienced plenty of +40 min runs because of players like you who are imposing their selfish and toxic behaviour and playstyle onto others
and now that I think about that, most of those were players with matching last names that threw a hissy fit when the person who held everything up was kicked and started doing everything to ruin the rest of the party's fun, what a coincidence!

It kinda comes off as self center a little to even say I just want players to be better in a game for no personal reasons at all
"you are self-centered if you want to help people" ok dude