Open World PvP

[Rae88]

Scottzone hasn't been the only streamer that was been harassed.

He was the only one sent a death threat and chased off the platform.

"Harrassment" is such a subjective and low bar it's fairly meaningless to talk about. There was an incident in Aether the other day where people were arguing that the songbirds bots were toxic, shortly after they (well someone) chased them off Siren *shrugs*

[Velnora]

He was the only one sent a death threat and chased off the platform.

"Harrassment" is such a subjective and low bar it's fairly meaningless to talk about. There was an incident in Aether the other day where people were arguing that the songbirds bots were toxic, shortly after they (well someone) chased them off Siren *shrugs*

If it's so meaningless to talk about and "subjective", why does this community constantly gatekeep, and throw a fit whenever WoW players are coming over?

[Rae88]

If it's so meaningless to talk about and "subjective", why does this community constantly gatekeep, and throw a fit whenever WoW players are coming over?

The community as a whole doesn't. But as has been said before there are bad actors in every community *shrugs*

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

If it's so meaningless to talk about and "subjective", why does this community constantly gatekeep, and throw a fit whenever WoW players are coming over?

They don't there are tons of guides on reddit for WoW transferees, Zepla herself came from WoW and was welcomed.

No one outright throws fits when wo players come to xiv.

[Rae88]

They don't there are tons of guides on reddit for WoW transferees, Zepla herself came from WoW and was welcomed.

No one outright throws fits when wo players come to xiv.

Not only was Zepla welcomed, there's Annie Fuchsia, Rich Campbell, Big Hero Sixy, and a bunch of other WoW players streaming their progress through FFXIV right now feeling welcomed

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Not only was Zepla welcomed, there's Annie Fuchsia, Rich Campbell, Big Hero Sixy, and a bunch of other WoW players streaming their progress through FFXIV right now feeling welcomed

She was just the biggest example i could come up with. I don't follow streamers for XIV, or in general really.

The funniest thing is, people on the forums tend to hate on XI and people who ask for XIV to turn into that style of game far more than players coming from WoW and asking questions. ( I had a terrible XI experience, so I am one of those people. I barely played WoW, so I have no opinion on it)

[Velnora]

They don't there are tons of guides on reddit for WoW transferees, Zepla herself came from WoW and was welcomed.

No one outright throws fits when wo players come to xiv.

Zepla literally just posted a video about people gatekeeping.

[KizuyaKatogami]

He was the only one sent a death threat and chased off the platform.

"Harrassment" is such a subjective and low bar it's fairly meaningless to talk about. There was an incident in Aether the other day where people were arguing that the songbirds bots were toxic, shortly after they (well someone) chased them off Siren *shrugs*

This is incorrect. While not a twitch streamer, LazyPeon got sent death threts to the point he had to take down his entire youtube video because people were literally doxxing his address. Guess why they sent him that? Because he criticized the game. Again, you would have the right of it, if it wasnt something thats occurred many times. One or two times is a mistake. 3 or more is a pattern. In 14's case, its a pattern. It's a known problem in this community that it cannot take criticism, both inside the game and outside of it. Theres a problem with this culture of enabling things that shouldnt be enabled. Handwaving it is why its becoming more rampant as the days go by. Just look at the posts in the asmongold thread lmao. People gatekeeping and hoping he never comes. That's why i bring up its funny that people critique other games so harshly but then wont even be open to people from other games coming. It's why i hope one of these upcoming mmo's just shits on 14. Maybe then it'll give this community the reality check it deserves.

[Velnora]

This is incorrect. While not a twitch streamer, LazyPeon got sent death threts to the point he had to take down his entire youtube video because people were literally doxxing his address. Guess why they sent him that? Because he criticized the game. Again, you would have the right of it, if it wasnt something thats occurred many times. One or two times is a mistake. 3 or more is a pattern. In 14's case, its a pattern. It's a known problem in this community that it cannot take criticism, both inside the game and outside of it. Theres a problem with this culture of enabling things that shouldnt be enabled. Handwaving it is why its becoming more rampant as the days go by. Just look at the posts in the asmongold thread lmao. People gatekeeping and hoping he never comes. That's why i bring up its funny that people critique other games so harshly but then wont even be open to people from other games coming. It's why i hope one of these upcoming mmo's just shits on 14. Maybe then it'll give this community the reality check it deserves.

"Great community btw"

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

This is incorrect. While not a twitch streamer, LazyPeon got sent death threts to the point he had to take down his entire youtube video because people were literally doxxing his address. Guess why they sent him that? Because he criticized the game. Again, you would have the right of it, if it wasnt something thats occurred many times. One or two times is a mistake. 3 or more is a pattern. In 14's case, its a pattern. It's a known problem in this community that it cannot take criticism, both inside the game and outside of it. Theres a problem with this culture of enabling things that shouldnt be enabled. Handwaving it is why its becoming more rampant as the days go by. Just look at the posts in the asmongold thread lmao. People gatekeeping and hoping he never comes. That's why i bring up its funny that people critique other games so harshly but then wont even be open to people from other games coming. It's why i hope one of these upcoming mmo's just shits on 14. Maybe then it'll give this community the reality check it deserves.

Every mmo thats released since XIV has been said "it'll kill xiv" BDO, Arch Age (hah, remember that one?!)

Also, I remember watching lazy peons video. He didn't provide criticism so much as he crapped on the game.

From my experience most people who are upset about asmongold coming over are former WoW players, as they are the ones who know who he is. I'd never heard of him until recently

also, I find it funny you accuse others of being unable to take criticism, while being unable t do so about ashes yourself. Plus, theres a LOT of PvP "gatekeeping" in this thread.