Open World PvP

[Rae88]

It's interesting to dismiss well known public incidents, as just one-off situations, to only reinforce your views with anecdotal evidence.

A one off situation wasn't a one off situation now?

[Velnora]

A one off situation wasn't a one off situation now?

Scottzone hasn't been the only streamer that was harassed.

[Krotoan]

Scottzone hasn't been the only streamer that has been harassed.

And he won't be the last.. FOR ANY GAME.

There are zealots (and trolls mind you) in every game fanbase. Nobody is saying FFXIV has no bad people playing.

[Velnora]

And he won't be the last.. FOR ANY GAME.

There are zealots (and trolls mind you) in every game fanbase. Nobody is saying FFXIV has no bad people playing.

Nobody is saying it's the only game that has the issue. People are merely pointing out that it DOES exist in FFXIV, to which is met with vitriol.

[Rae88]

Nobody is saying it's the only game that has the issue. People are merely pointing out that it DOES exist in FFXIV, to which is met with vitriol.

People were never saying there weren't bad actors in FFXIV. People were saying it has a nicer community. Whether this is true or not is usually based off anecdotal evidence, which may only be observation but observation is firstly the first step in any scientific method and secondly when enough people observe the same thing tends to carry some weight.

[Rae88]

Scottzone hasn't been the only streamer that was been harassed.

He was the only one sent a death threat and chased off the platform.

"Harrassment" is such a subjective and low bar it's fairly meaningless to talk about. There was an incident in Aether the other day where people were arguing that the songbirds bots were toxic, shortly after they (well someone) chased them off Siren *shrugs*

[Velnora]

He was the only one sent a death threat and chased off the platform.

"Harrassment" is such a subjective and low bar it's fairly meaningless to talk about. There was an incident in Aether the other day where people were arguing that the songbirds bots were toxic, shortly after they (well someone) chased them off Siren *shrugs*

If it's so meaningless to talk about and "subjective", why does this community constantly gatekeep, and throw a fit whenever WoW players are coming over?

[Rae88]

If it's so meaningless to talk about and "subjective", why does this community constantly gatekeep, and throw a fit whenever WoW players are coming over?

The community as a whole doesn't. But as has been said before there are bad actors in every community *shrugs*

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

If it's so meaningless to talk about and "subjective", why does this community constantly gatekeep, and throw a fit whenever WoW players are coming over?

They don't there are tons of guides on reddit for WoW transferees, Zepla herself came from WoW and was welcomed.

No one outright throws fits when wo players come to xiv.

[Rae88]

They don't there are tons of guides on reddit for WoW transferees, Zepla herself came from WoW and was welcomed.

No one outright throws fits when wo players come to xiv.

Not only was Zepla welcomed, there's Annie Fuchsia, Rich Campbell, Big Hero Sixy, and a bunch of other WoW players streaming their progress through FFXIV right now feeling welcomed