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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    ........ There would still be bad pfs in a server like that.
    I don't know what Caurcas is on about, I just want to be that one annoying add that pops up out of nowhere and paralyzes people.

    Kind of the same thing that drove me to drag a level one character in Dark Souls 3 all the way to Irithyll Prison to grab the item that lets you upgrade weapons to bleed and poison damage. There's nothing more obnoxious than some overgeared twink on Lothric's High Wall poisoning you and inevitably pointing down at your corpse because you don't have access to purple moss.

    Practically was a rite of passage for brand new players any time Dark Souls 3 was on sale. Literally can't get any more toxic than that lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    I don't know what Caurcas is on about, I just want to be that one annoying add that pops up out of nowhere and paralyzes people.

    Kind of the same thing that drove me to drag a level one character in Dark Souls 3 all the way to Irithyll Prison to grab the item that lets you upgrade weapons to bleed and poison damage. There's nothing more obnoxious than some overgeared twink on Lothric's High Wall poisoning you and inevitably pointing down at your corpse because you don't have access to purple moss.

    Practically was a rite of passage for brand new players any time Dark Souls 3 was on sale. Literally can't get any more toxic than that lol.
    Hey man at least you are honest lol.
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    I would love to see this, but there’s absolutely no chance of this happening.
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  4. #104
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    yeah, let's give max level assh*les the oportunity to keep killing low level sprouts over and over outside safe areas. Because that's fun, right?
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    I would do something else. Instead of Open World PvP, but something similiar like in Ashes of Creation...

    With poetic tomes (or MGP) you can buy "Instable elemental crystal". Using it in the open world will not only transform you into an enemy with a specific moveset (for example dark element: voidsent, light element: sin eater, wind element: garuda like), but also trigger yourself as a FATE where other people have to fight you. Also, some NPCs will join the fight.

    Each time you managed to kill a player or an NPC, you get a soul fragment. Some of your skills are AoEs with a cooldown, while others will do more damage depending on his enmity to you. So you cant just insta-kill the healers.

    When other people defeated you (or the timer runs out), you transform back and other people get EXP, gil and maybe some tomes (or something). Collected soul fragments can be exchanged for titles, glamour and exp tickets.

    In short: Instead of Open World PvP, just switching places with NPCs ; )

    And for the lore: Those instable crystals are the byproduct of summoned primals earlier. Those cant be destroyed directly, so the only way is to use them in a controlled way and with the help of other people (like summoning Shiva in Eden).
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    Last edited by Caitlyn; 07-02-2021 at 01:06 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
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    Sounds similar to the pvp half of FFXI's Monstrosity system. Players could unlock and level up various monsters in the overworld and dungeons and eventually unlock tiers of power that made them on par with Notorious Monsters and allowed them engage regular players in the world and fight for system-specific currency.

    Monster players had unique suites of abilities as well as the spells/abilities associated with the job(s) that are inherent to that species of monster that were on meter-controlled cooldowns and the rarer species could take alliances of players to take down. Sadly from what I remember, the pvp rewards were mediocre so very few participated.

    I would love a remake of that for XIV in a similar style to how you described.
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    PvP in this game already scales everybody to the same stat allocation regardless of their level. Presumably, open world PvP would adhere to the same approach. A level thirty WAR is equal to a level eighty WAR.

    It'd be as simple as toggling it on and switching from PvE to PvP hotbars - something that already happens in PvP maps and the Wolve's Den. If it's entirely opt in, I really don't see the problem with it.

    PvP is something that a decent chunk of players enjoy and pursue. I like it quite a bit myself and wish it received more focus, not less.
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    I played Aion for years and left it because of the open world pvp. More and more players fought and seen where using mods and other cheats so it wasn't even fair pvp fights anymore. Open world pvp is always a fail system unless you can stop all the grievers and cheaters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    PvP is by far the worst designed thing in this game. You cannot have PvP with this netcode
    I thought Bozja was the worst? Which is it?

    Also, I think if, and that's a mighty big if, they do make open world PVP it would likely be limited to specific worlds by either making some currently existing ones do so, or creating new ones to do that.
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    Last edited by Avatre; 07-02-2021 at 02:38 AM.

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    In addendum, it would be a great way to vent frustrations instead of the passive aggressive toxicity we have now.
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